[2.1 Ghazzy - Summoner Guides] Low Budget Builds

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Stealthrider wrote:

Hey Ghazzy,

so I just hit level 74 in HC on my SRS Hybrid and picked up a cheap 4-link Pledge of Hands (to replace my 4-link +2 fire gems staff).

At the moment my 4-link is SRS - Minion Damage - Melee Physical Damage - Melee Splash (for trash)/ Melee Damage on Full Life (for tougher bosses). Don't really want to spend a lot of chroms getting the Culling Strike in there. I have an unleveled Empower in stash, though, and I'm wondering if it's worth leveling it to replace the flex gem in my 4-link.

Also I'd like your thoughts on what maps I should look out for as particularly dangerous or easy. It's my first go as a summoner and it's certainly playing differently to other builds, so I'm not sure what the status quo is as far as mapping.

Here's my gear and current tree for reference:

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Passive skill tree build

Current life is ~2.5k (unreserved), energy shield 2.8k, chaos res is still very negative unfortunately but with only Clarity linked to BM it hasn't been too much of an issue yet. I plan on carrying around an Amethyst flask if it becomes one.

This is thus far my highest HC character ever, and I just recently got 15/20 and my sexy new chest mtx (which I immediately put on that even sexier savant's robe, which I found myself!), so I'd like to say again thanks a ton for the guide!

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monosama wrote:

has anyone tried MoM on this build? once all the mana nodes are filled, it might be worth it in the late stages with this crazy mana regen?


I'm L76 - doing tier 4 ish maps now with no issues at all.
usually killing bosses with no damage taken.
i'm using the totem/arc/EE and faster casting/flamedash - i find the flame dash to be extremely useful when swarmed, but that meant i had to get an unset ring for 1 aura and also put my desecrate on a weapon swap (only use it for initial spawning of zombies/spectres anyway)

taking one of the big monkeys from act2/tropical island type maps. gives you frenzy charges which really help in cast speed when you don't have FO/VaalHaste up. they're also quite tanky at my stage of mapping if you get them from a map.

my gear at the moment: i've got about 3k ES and just under 2k Life. my resistances are just capped and i have over 40% chaos resist. chaos/phys snakes seem to be my biggest danger at the moment

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Nauzhror wrote:

Well, here's my current gear:

What would you prioritize replacing?

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Also, can you comment on this thread I made here?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1433970

My math there is the reason I am using my current link-setup. I'm not using hatred atm, so it seems better than what you had suggested, unless I did math wrong/misunderstood something, which is possible.

I believe that faster attacks is likely superior to multistrike as well it seems, unless once again I am misunderstanding something.

But:

21/20 faster attacks = +55% attack speed.

My 21/20 multistrike is +95% attack speed, +10% damage, 30% less damage.

100 damage base:

100 * 1.55 = 155

100 * 1.95 = 195 * 1.1 = 214.5 * .7 = 150.15

That'd be if it was 10% more, and it isn't, it's 10% increase, so the gain is even smaller than that.

Multistrike also makes you hit each target a minimum of three times even if you one-hit-kill it, faster attacks doesn't.

And yes, I have staunch flasks for Palace Dominus fight, though I might need more of them than I currently have. Not sure it's bleed that's killing me though, I don't think it is.

As for which build, it's the 3 keystone zoomancer build, but I currently only have 1 keystone, I'm a few levels away from grabbing MOM and EB.

Anger is currently not being used. Arctic Armor, Haste, Clarity are. There's a Generosity re-leveling in offhand (it was recently rolled back to level 1 as pr gcp recipe as were many of my other gems as can be seen).

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Ghazzy wrote:

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Nauzhror wrote:

Well, here's my current gear:

What would you prioritize replacing?

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Also, can you comment on this thread I made here?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1433970

My math there is the reason I am using my current link-setup. I'm not using hatred atm, so it seems better than what you had suggested, unless I did math wrong/misunderstood something, which is possible.

I believe that faster attacks is likely superior to multistrike as well it seems, unless once again I am misunderstanding something.

But:

21/20 faster attacks = +55% attack speed.

My 21/20 multistrike is +95% attack speed, +10% damage, 30% less damage.

100 damage base:

100 * 1.55 = 155

100 * 1.95 = 195 * 1.1 = 214.5 * .7 = 150.15

That'd be if it was 10% more, and it isn't, it's 10% increase, so the gain is even smaller than that.

Multistrike also makes you hit each target a minimum of three times even if you one-hit-kill it, faster attacks doesn't.

And yes, I have staunch flasks for Palace Dominus fight, though I might need more of them than I currently have. Not sure it's bleed that's killing me though, I don't think it is.

As for which build, it's the 3 keystone zoomancer build, but I currently only have 1 keystone, I'm a few levels away from grabbing MOM and EB.

Anger is currently not being used. Arctic Armor, Haste, Clarity are. There's a Generosity re-leveling in offhand (it was recently rolled back to level 1 as pr gcp recipe as were many of my other gems as can be seen).

I commented on your thread, like i said there;
I will have to forward you to MatrixFactor for exact calculations but my display is stating optimized DPS for this build, so to pass higher content you must adjust your current setup to that for higher DPS output.

The Gems are very bad compared to what I am displaying.
Hatred is by far the biggest gain of damage for SRS, Ive said it before, the aura prio should look like this:
Clarity > Hatred > Anger > Haste when it comes to offensive layout.

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Nauzhror wrote:

His spreadsheet simply doesn't factor in some skill gems as options - that does nothing to prove their supposed inferiority.

Without an explanation of what I'm miscalculating/misunderstanding I really see no reason to assume my math is wrong, especially since I have a masters degree in mathematics.

My own math showed them to be inferior when affected by hatred, but otherwise superior. You yourself are promoting anger > hatred due to hatred doing nothing for flame sentinels damage. As such using a gem setup alongside anger and sentinels that is only better when accompanied by hatred doesn't make much sense.

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prospecial wrote:

just like you i love summoners since the old days of diablo 2

tbh i cant decide how to play with that insane amount of possibilites and i dont mean questions like evangelists or revenants as spectres ^^

would you say your life+mind over matter+eb approach for survivabilty is the best? i am bulding trees with life, ci, hybrid, but it doesnt feel right