[2.1 Ghazzy - Summoner Guides] Low Budget Builds

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Nauzhror wrote:

It was the sentinels I as referring to. I'm using the build on Tempest. I'm currently level 70.

I have 3,166 HP and 1,780 ES. Currently trying to improve that a bit more so I can think about making the switch to EB/MOM soon.

Using this:

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I desperately need a better chest, but I'm reluctant to give up the 6L setup (real 6L's are much less in my budget than cheap corrupted ones dropped from Corrupting Tempests).

I used sidhebreath and ullr's boots till Merciless but recently disposed of both, only two uniques I am tempted to wear currently are Pledge of Hands and Vis Mortis, but not sure if Vi'd be a good idea, it's more ES than my current chest, but much less than a rare chest. How viable would you consider Vis Mortis to be at end game? It'd make spectres die easier (zombies too I guess, but those never die), but it'd ramp up the damage of them and SRS.

Meginord's Girdle is another unique I could see being useful, primarily due to it's +10% HP.

Hey,

I am not a big fan at all of the Vis Mortis, it gives you some ES sure, 0 life, and then it gives you +1 spectre. All the other mods are more or less 99% useless. The buff is useless and spread only to the single minion who delivers a killing blow and is unable to be scaled in duration unless using increased duration gem but still being a useless buff. Then the lack of HP, but yeah zombies rarely die anyways with that build.

It gives you increased damage sure, but mainly via +1 spectre and you are losing out on quiet a big increase defensively from using a rare chest.

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lazycalm2 wrote:

Hey Ghazzy,

About your pure SRS build, which class is the most optimal in your opinion, Scion or Witch?

Thanks

Pure SRS Hybrid = Witch > Scion

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Nauzhror wrote:

Will try it again I think, but not really sure the build's nearly as hc-viable as proclaimed. ES without evade or armor just can't handle phys damage very well. Died at level 73 in like 2 hits on a 68 map.

The build lives on the HP gain, you must make sure your life is focused on getting as much as possible. I would recommend having a minimum life pool of 4k+ which means with ZO/MoM/EB you'll have an eHP of 5200+ as long as your ES is at least 40-50% of your HP pool. Now you should be able to get more if you focus on HP gear pieces mainly, changing the 6L to a chest with much higher life gain will increase your resilience but you would obviously drop damage, so its a tough choice. But playing Hardcore i wouldnt even think twice about it, unless i had insane HP gear on all the other pieces, as well as changing a bit in my spec to get more life to meet the required stats for a comfortable end game stat.

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Nauzhror wrote:

I don't really agree with malachai being somewhere you simply "should" die. or that you need to be level 71+ for 68 maps.

Yes, I was level 73 when I died in a 68 map, but it was a double player Dungeon Brutus fight, I had recently killed him just fine when he had 1 player HP. Gorge, Tropical Valley, and Dunes all gave me little fuss as low as level 66.


I however had much better gear.

Malachai is an annoying fight for summoners that do not use SRS. But no, you are not "suppose" to die there, absolutely not. These builds are all hardcore viable, tested and confirmed with rather bad gear worth under 1ex in HC-Templeague. That includes the currency to get a 5L by average.

I personally recommend being careful vs hardhitting bosses in maps and outLvL the maps before daring to go in. Dying vs Brutus can be done by a lot of builds if you get unlucky and critted. The arena map is very annoying if you cant clear the spawns fast enough as well, you'll get overrun and die for that reason alone. Certain maps as you are describing are piss-easy specially for summoners. :)

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Need some help, really confused here! Few questions regarding the 'Pure SRS hybrid'.

- You mention 'effective HP', what does this mean exactly?

- You also mention life roll on gear till you reach the stage of mapping then focus on the priorities. Yet stated that you do not need any life rolls on gear at endgame stage. Confused by what this means exactly, do we entirely not get life on gear at all? Or do we still need to get some life. As I've been flicking through the pages and seeing others recommend people having gear problems to get more life.

Apoligies beforehand if none of this makes sense or I'm simply just not getting it, currently half asleep XD

Hey,

Effective HP = It is the "life" you have that is what damage is taking from you. When I am refering to eHP it is usually consisting of the build(s) using EB/ZO/MoM making 30% of the damage you take hit your ES instead of life pool. So as long as you keep enough ES as I am recommending to have a minimum of 40-50%+ compared to your life pool it can look like this:

4000 HP + 2000 ES = 4000 x 1.30 = 5200 eHP that is how much effective life you have with 4000 life as long as your Energy Shield is enough, but then you need some to cast spells with as well, on top of the fact that you can use flasks to regain life back you want even more energy shield above the additional 1200 "life". Which is why im recommending to have a minimum of 40-50% of your life pool as energy shield!


The Pure SRS Hybrid build does not use EB/ZO/MoM it is relying on your ES as your eHP however, you want to have an ABSOLUTE MINIMUM of 800+ actual life pool with high chaos resistance to survive the incoming chaos damage taken. In this specific build your eHP is your life pool + ES pool.
Lvling up a character with only ES as your focus can be very hard to survive with and to handle chaos damage with that focus whilst lvling is VERY hard and can be rather expensive if you really are trying to make it work.
Due to that fact you want to level as shown in the skilltree as well, with the use of life rolls on gear and nodes in the tree to make sure you can survive reaching lvl 65-70+ where you want to start considering to do maps if not later. At that point you can regear your character entirely and skip the life roll and respec out of the life providing nodes in the tree which decreases the cost of almost all gear pieces and leaves room for your skilltree to other more useful nodes.


And do not worry about asking questions, any question is more than welcome. I love what I do and I'm just glad people are enjoying my work in here!