PoE won....

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MadBro_ wrote:

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Hilbert wrote:

one of?
Not THE most?
You disappoint me :(

You can expect my postings to be negative, sarcastic or ironical all the time as long everything stays as it is.

It's like looking at the thread made a lolban and it's his biweekly "PoE Dead" thread.

Oh dude dont pull that shit with me , i have been long enough in these forums to understand what the problem is with you...You dont like anything , absolutely anything.You find a negative side of the things absolutely fucking everywhere ..You even derail threads posting things that have nothing to do with them and when things come down to this i think it is obvious not only for me but everybody else that you are just a bad troll with nothing else to do.You wouldnt change one bit if things magically improved , even when things do improve instead of "expressing your graditude" you go on with some stupid other shit that has nearly nothing to do with the topic.

Dont fool yourself..please..Hell i am nowhere near a fanboy and damn i like anybody else tell some shit from time to time but you are in a whole different level..There is no need to bring down even positive things with negativity..It just clearly expresses you dont appreciate it.How in the world are you going to convince me that if you dont appreciate and accept positive things you are really interested in improving things..Grow some balls and admit it , pssst nobody cares anyway.

What you consider positivity, some of us consider wasted resources.

Im sure Hilbert would agree with me in saying that not a single positive change has occurred in months. And certainly nothing substantial enough to account for the major flaws in the game.

I mean its super awesome that you have a variety of butterfly wings to choose from and another layer of RNG to play through, but some of us arent into it.

no need really , i am just curious if guys like him or jdilly that just joined now actually have any real argument beside their trashtalk , oh well..guess not

Right behind PoE is ASOIAF, I am sure all the negativity is directed at R + L = J deniers xD

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MaxTheLimit wrote:

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jdilly23 wrote:

Im sure Hilbert would agree with me in saying that not a single positive change has occurred in months.

Aside from that being demonstrably false, it is that sort of absolutism that leads to almost no one paying much attention to either of you. :P

Aww you think I want attention <3

Nah, I just want PoE to change. There are much better ways to go about getting attention, like you said.


Madbro feel free to dig real deep into my post history, back when I tried to be constructive but was completely ignored. There is no room for constructive criticism on these forums. If they wont listen to someone throwing several thousand dollars at them, they wont listen to anyone.

I might as well get a laugh out of posting here, if Im going to post at all :)

^ no pay to win. and also nice logic there

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jdilly23 wrote:

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MaxTheLimit wrote:

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jdilly23 wrote:

Im sure Hilbert would agree with me in saying that not a single positive change has occurred in months.

Aside from that being demonstrably false, it is that sort of absolutism that leads to almost no one paying much attention to either of you. :P

Aww you think I want attention <3

Nah, I just want PoE to change. There are much better ways to go about getting attention, like you said.


Madbro feel free to dig real deep into my post history, back when I tried to be constructive but was completely ignored. There is no room for constructive criticism on these forums. If they wont listen to someone throwing several thousand dollars at them, they wont listen to anyone.

I might as well get a laugh out of posting here, if Im going to post at all :)

oh yea right , dig deep in your post history ..now thats a new way to completely evade a discussion . I dont really understand..sooo you dont wanna discuss , you dont want to throw a reasonable argument to me YET you claim to be right , you claim not to be a troll and you use the forums frequently.

Sooooooooooo you basicaly proved my point? Negative , bitter trolls who neither believe nor want the game to actually improve.
You said you dont want attention but every single word of yours screams the opposite , having a laugh? Please...there are a lot more people having a laugh with you..As lostform said..nice logic there..

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As i said THATS the problem with you , you see EVERYTHING black .

You call it black I call it realistic.

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K , I think the optimization of the game has improved , things got tonz better when a decent guy started working at it and i also think it just shows things can become even better and it is just a matter of time.

2020?
A game being so resourceheavy while not needing so many resources is a bad thing.
Just look at A3X or Corrupted zones and watch at the GPU Load.

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The amount of content has surely a lot bigger from cb and ob , we are constantly receiving patches and extra content so you cant surely say things havent improved in this front.

And here we go.
Act 3 wasn't well received. (I hate act 3 too)
Many patches aren't well received and made many players quit known as "Nerfpatches"

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Life vs Ci is way more balanced

No it's not.
CB offered potential 120+ more life from quests and itemlevel 64 allowed more life to spawn on Rings, Amus, Shields.....
CI worked fine in CB the only problem were powerful ES mods and granites making CI characters undestroyable.That could have been easily be fixed by "No Armor" Drawback on CI or only the itemnerfs.

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Ev vs IR is way more balanced

IR shouldn't exist in the first place.(There is a thread made by Charan back in CB)
This node is an alibi node because Evasion wasn't and still isn't viable.

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Spells vs attacks is certainly way more balanced etc etc etc

You never played CB. In CB you could play Endgame with literally everything.
Progression Cruel,Ruthless and on was fluent.
It worked fine.

Spells vs attacks are broken. The best example is the Roadblock named Dominus Cruel.
Spellcasters use Searing Bond to get past this Roadblock before their Spells become effective.
Why do you think Racemeta of Spellcasters is FlameBlast?

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YOu can finally start playing as a summoner since a1 normal now , when before you had to transition to it.So this means things have improved!

Maybe you are right but I want to see a Video a Summoner killing merv normal at level 12-14 without being forced to resummon skeletons all the time because the Zombies dies after the first Icespear.

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4 Links became way more avaible lately didnt they?5Link also , doesnt this mean things have improved?

Distraction from Core Problem->Crafting und currency

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Uniques became way more common lately didnt they? You can find way more useful uniques now and everybody who has been playing this time can approve that.So things have improved havent they? No more shit uniques only

It's news post vs somebody doing 8h Dominus Merciless runs daily and ends up with 1 useful unique a day.
I didn't find many uniques after the change during races...
It doesn't seem to be something you feel unless you play A LOT of PoE.

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Bosses like piety dom etc etc pay off a lot now right? Making some currency outside maps is finally quite possible , doesnt this mean things have improved?

And other stuff such as Map only uniques still exists.
A ring comparable to a nagelring is a level 71+ map ring only.
You still make currency by Trading with players and not by finding them.

Tiny changes to distract from coreproblems again.

Players want coreproblems to be fixed. "20% increased droprate to next to nothing" is still next to nothing for most players.

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You mention the ingame shop below and gear checks and stupid thhings like this with not a single argument why is so , profit from ingame shop? REALLY? motherfucking really? You are basing all your complaints on the existence of stash tabs when they are absolutely minimal compared to what could be wrong with the game?

I didn't talk about MTX. I talk about MMORPGs
You understand what an Ingame Shop in MMORPGs is?

It's an Real Money Ingame Shop selling powerful items for cash.
You are roadblocked in MMORPGs at some point. You need to grind a lot of time(subscription fee) or pay let's say 30-60$ for items the MMORPGCOMPANY sells by themselves.

PoE uses such Roadblocks without any benefit for themselves.
There is no subscription fee. Grinding doesn't feel rewarding.

There is no official ingame RMT shop to get past that Roadblock.
PoE only adds frustration to players.

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You are mentioning gear checks yet i dont understand what do you expect from an ARPG ..

Gearchecks are a MMORPG thing.
Why are you forced to have 75%+ res at some point and 50% resist get you killed once hit?
Then later even 75% isn't enough anymore and you need 80+ then 85%+

ARPGs create difficulty through AI scripts or unexpected situations.
Look at difficult fixed drop ARPGs.

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No need to get mad over some basement dweller's bitterness :)

I didn't know you feel bitter. :(

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There is no room for constructive criticism on these forums. If they wont listen to someone throwing several thousand dollars at them, they wont listen to anyone.If they wont listen to someone throwing several thousand dollars at them, they wont listen to anyone.

Correct.
After OB it looks the devs put on blinders and did their thing.
The game had huge potential and at some point it turned into frustration.

But I said it several times already. There seems to be next to no communication within GGG too.
If the Lead Designer uses responses ending with "I guess/believe..." artists create common shiny MMORPG cosmetics while the game should be dark themed and skill effects got reduced while the game was too shiny this is a contradiction.

Dark themed MTX would be more stuff like the upcoming Black Hole Portal or something like a Blood Wall Portal.
Leather Armors looking like some beast has recently been slain.
Heavily damaged Armors
Enchanted Armors that look like they could trigger a side effect any time.
There could even be really cheap MTX such as adding scars on the characters.

But as a new player visiting the MTX shop I would think "Dark Game... I don't know"

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Zepidell wrote:

Reddit doesn't have anything on the negativity represented here.

HAHAHA, the Chris Christ post was hilarious.

Damn, I really need to get into that board again.

@ Hilbert

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You call it black I call it realistic.

Oh no no no i wouldnt call it realistic , the last time i checked realism means seeing things as they really are .You said nothing improved , i told you just a few cases where it actually did and you didnt actually deny nor offer an counterargument.You either said it was "Distraction from Core Problem" or you compared to CB when dude lol..if you really wanna be realistic again things in CB were just too freaking easy..You can compare things to a time things were not actually balanced but they were TOO OP OVERALL . Saying it is a distraction from the core problem doesnt really deny it is an improvement , maybe a small improvement but the point still remains , it is an improvement !

Now there is some nonsense shit right there but dont worry i will answer to your points one by one but frankly i dont even think you know what an argument is anymore.Anyway lets get down to it.

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2020?
A game being so resourceheavy while not needing so many resources is a bad thing.
Just look at A3X or Corrupted zones and watch at the GPU Load.

Dude my point is that things have improved , i am not denying there are not other problems that have arised since thats what is gonna happen when everything new happens. Yes there are problems with certain areas like Dom etc etc but as i said that is only a matter of time before those problems get resolved , everything at its time . How can i say this ? Well based on the improvement we have had with the other parts of the game .

Are you really insinuating that cutting 1/3 of PoE`s size was not an improvement? Or things like fixing frozen ground and ice shot and ice effects overall? Are you really saying there was no improvement with the change to charges`s looks? If you can please do it , because thats my point as thats what you asked.Dont evade the real point bringing up something new too say like you always do.

Please consider it like this , take the WHOLE game back in you paradise CB with no changes at all + new content and PLEASE PLEASE tell me it would not be 10x worse than the current one (Of course i am talking for optimization

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And here we go.
Act 3 wasn't well received. (I hate act 3 too)
Many patches aren't well received and made many players quit known as "Nerfpatches"

What? just what? Soooo since you and a bunch of other players didnt like a3..that means it cant be considered extra content , that means it cant be considered an improvement of the amount of content ..?Like really? Is this supposed to be an argument? People whining is your argument?Dude.. So if i am gonna say now i absolutely adore a3 ( i actually like it..) and a bunch of players agree that means i am giving an argument too right?

Of course SOME people will not like changes , there are people like that in every time and place..Does that mean that a change is bad tho? If those changes were SO BAD as you acclaim how is it that there are MORE players then back then in CB AND OB?How come PoE isnt already dead (and this is related to your basic acclaim of nothing good ever happening) since every patch has been baad baad and only bad.

Use GGG`s numbers bro.. their numbers and come back at me if you think there are less players.
EVEN IF there were less players...yours is not even an argument to begin with..AGAIN please focus on the point of this discussion and the point only..Psst if you dont remember is (Have there ever been any improvement in PoE )

No it's not.
CB offered potential 120+ more life from quests and itemlevel 64 allowed more life to spawn on Rings, Amus, Shields.....
CI worked fine in CB the only problem were powerful ES mods and granites making CI characters undestroyable.That could have been easily be fixed by "No Armor" Drawback on CI or only the itemnerfs.

Are you even playing the game? Do you remember how OP ES actually was back then? Are you really going to say right now that ES was not a lot better than life back then? Like for fucks sake , 10 k es was the bare MINIMUM back then..
GGG reduced ES mods a lot and they reduced life mods just a bit , again pls dont forget everything was freaking easy on CB and having that much EHP pool was the main problem back then...
Are you even playing the game right now? Es and Hp has never been in such a balanced situation..Ofc there are still problems especially with CI but numbers are in a much better shape right now and dude wow really you just have to play the game to understand this.There is nothing like ALL GO ES in OB or GO ES IF YOU WANNA BE IMMORTAL in CB..

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ou never played CB. In CB you could play Endgame with literally everything.
Progression Cruel,Ruthless and on was fluent.
It worked fine.

Spells vs attacks are broken. The best example is the Roadblock named Dominus Cruel.
Spellcasters use Searing Bond to get past this Roadblock before their Spells become effective.
Why do you think Racemeta of Spellcasters is FlameBlast?

Again..CB was too easy.. it wasnt the merit of fucking balance , it was the merit of the easy non threatening game..Thats the reason why you could go to endgame with anything pff jeez..
Now i am really sure you dont even play the game anymore , as a guy who solos everytime ..i call bullshit in your claim , tell me one dps oriented spell and i will go push to cruel right now and i am gonna kill dom cruel with it..Jeez thats just exaggerating ..Yes dom cruel is overtuned but saying that you cant kill it with any spell is plain baseless BULLSHIT..
Echo just came in and one of the biggest problems spells had (mana cost) got really improved..If you are going to say anything please tell me how echo is not an improvement .

Why do you compare it to easy CB only? Do you remember in what a miserable position attacks were till multistrike and splash came in?

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IR shouldn't exist in the first place.(There is a thread made by Charan back in CB)
This node is an alibi node because Evasion wasn't and still isn't viable.

Hhahaha so let me get this straight , you are not giving me any reason whatsoever why evasion isnt viable NOW , you are basing your non existent argument on "IR shouldnt even exist.." You said it was an alibi bla bla bla , i agree..weell we got it , we cant remove it right? What do we doo ? Well we obviously balance it , we do it by reducing the accuracy of the mobs , reducing the penalties of acrobatics..Allowing reflect to be evaded , making so IR doesnt get affected by dex..I dont see how that is not improvement to you wtf..do you even know 2 shits about this game?

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Maybe you are right but I want to see a Video a Summoner killing merv normal at level 12-14 without being forced to resummon skeletons all the time because the Zombies dies after the first Icespear.

Dude you said it yourself , I CANT BELIEVE IT , maybe you are right..oh the joy i am feeling now..Ok ok ok now hey are you missing the point AGAIN , pff .. The improvement is still there bro even if you couldnt kill merv in that way..because oh well before that you couldnt kill merv at all . It even doesnt hold anyway because thats how GGG decided it to work anyway..zombies have to be resummed , they are not permanent..and every summoner knows understands and accepts that , anyway i am glad to inform you that using raging spirits merv is a piece of cake and zombies hold her for enough time .

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Distraction from Core Problem->Crafting und currency

I am not gonna talk too much about this as i said it above.."distraction from core problem" isnt an argument , it has nothing to do with the point AGAIN and it surely doesnt mean it is no improvement..Every sane person would see easier 4links and 5links as an improvement , what the fuck is wrong with you and your denying..

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It's news post vs somebody doing 8h Dominus Merciless runs daily and ends up with 1 useful unique a day.
I didn't find many uniques after the change during races...
It doesn't seem to be something you feel unless you play A LOT of PoE.

Dude have you ever checked mano`s stream :p ? Are you basing your argument on your experience alone..Are you adding really short events (pssst you have never been in any race this season anyway ) to your claim? You dont feel it unless you play A LOT of PoE..hmm i am just trying to count the many reasons why this is so wrong but i simply cant ..w8 no i am having a number its..its..OVER 9000!! Pff why do i have to explain this simple concept..
A lot of PoE before--->2 Uniques A lot of PoE now---> 4 uniques
You form a lot of poe by adding tiny bits of little PoE , lets take little PoE 1/2 of a lot of PoE (just number please dont repeat this dumb shit anymore )
little poe then--> 1 unique A little poe now ===> 2 uniques ..SEEE!!Improvements :D..pff

I am so fucking tired with your shit now.. i think i have been able to bring down most of your points till now and i could do the same with the rest .. i am just sleepy.Dude..you are a freaking hater...THats it , just stop embarrasing yourself