PoE won....

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kasub wrote:

From reddit:

"This is done with sentiment analysis, and while I don't know the exact words they're using for weighting, it means that words like "leech" and "broken" and "(Atziri's) Disfavour" and "Infernal (Mantle)" are likely getting counted as negative sentiment. Results like this are to be expected for a 'dark' ARPG, simply from discussing the game. Don't make too much out of it."

If you're not sure if that's true then just paste that into http://sentigem.com/#! It turns out negative.

Ok use single words(This Captcha is a pain in the ass):

leech -> Neutral

infernal -> Netral

Disfavour ->Neutral

Use single phrases -> Neutral.

There are other games with the same vocabulary, this isn't the case.

The captcha is annoying me so I won't test any further but I believe that words like, "Downvoted", "fuck", "screw", "bullshit", "you+ noob", "l2p", "filthy casual" etc are certainly weightened negative

Especially the word "Scrubcore" has been used over and over back in November.

The parser will scan Scrubcore and doesn't know what it means.

It parses SCRUB and creates out of "Go back to Scrubcore" "Go back scrub" (to drops out for being a common word)

PVP elitist reddits certainly have weight in there.
Back in October and November there were some threads here(Best pvper) and on reddit some asked for PVP tips and got massive flood of insults of those PVP "elitists"

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so bad there is nothing like that with forums , we could have won another first prize for sure

Nah the spambot postings count as positive sentiment.
I think lol/Dota2 forums will win.

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yaawn ye ye old news.. the thing that amazes me tho is the hipocrisy here lol :p ..to think that these kind of news are posted by one of the most negative people here on the forums LOL

one of?
Not THE most?
You disappoint me :(

You can expect my postings to be negative, sarcastic or ironical all the time as long everything stays as it is.

It's like looking at the thread made a lolban and it's his biweekly "PoE Dead" thread.

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kasub wrote:

From reddit:

"This is done with sentiment analysis, and while I don't know the exact words they're using for weighting, it means that words like "leech" and "broken" and "(Atziri's) Disfavour" and "Infernal (Mantle)" are likely getting counted as negative sentiment. Results like this are to be expected for a 'dark' ARPG, simply from discussing the game. Don't make too much out of it."

If you're not sure if that's true then just paste that into http://sentigem.com/#! It turns out negative.

A valid point. But, to be fair, there are tons and tons and tons of dark (darker even!) games out there. And none were on the list.

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Hilbert wrote:

one of?
Not THE most?
You disappoint me :(

You can expect my postings to be negative, sarcastic or ironical all the time as long everything stays as it is.

It's like looking at the thread made a lolban and it's his biweekly "PoE Dead" thread.

Oh dude dont pull that shit with me , i have been long enough in these forums to understand what the problem is with you...You dont like anything , absolutely anything.You find a negative side of the things absolutely fucking everywhere ..You even derail threads posting things that have nothing to do with them and when things come down to this i think it is obvious not only for me but everybody else that you are just a bad troll with nothing else to do.You wouldnt change one bit if things magically improved , even when things do improve instead of "expressing your graditude" you go on with some stupid other shit that has nearly nothing to do with the topic.

Dont fool yourself..please..Hell i am nowhere near a fanboy and damn i like anybody else tell some shit from time to time but you are in a whole different level..There is no need to bring down even positive things with negativity..It just clearly expresses you dont appreciate it.How in the world are you going to convince me that if you dont appreciate and accept positive things you are really interested in improving things..Grow some balls and admit it , pssst nobody cares anyway.

I am no troll I am a parasite, that will be removed on death and will say "Told you so"

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You wouldnt change one bit if things magically improved

Where is the effort to improve anything? There are tons of the same feedback and nothing has been done. Last reaction was only to prevent a split userbase for a fillerevent.

They could revert to CB and I would like it.
I said it in CB already that I totally detest MMORPG.
And literally everything I hated about D3 made it into PoE.

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even when things do improve instead of "expressing your graditude"

Name things that improved. The core issues introduced with OB and 11.0 are still in the game.
The game goes more and more the MMORPG way.


Most players leave when they reach the point and think:"This doesn't feel right"

This is the fundamental difference between MMORPG and ARPG. In ARPG the character feels stronger over time till it feels finished(before the max level)
In MMORG Content will be blocked by Gearchecks, so players invest more time in grinding,trading with 2 main goals. Either create time sinks for subscription money or create walls so players will invest money in the ingameitemshop.

There is no need to create such sinks in POE.

While I don't exactly praise the overall negative sentiment found in PoE forums/reddit, I can't say I'm surprised.

I just view the glass half full. If there is this much discussion going on over the negative aspects of the game, it means that the game is interesting enough to retain even the negative people so they stay around long enough to talk about the negative aspects. Or I could just be full of bologna (I did in fact just ate a bologna and muenster sandwich, so this may be the case).

It's about negative sentiments not negative aspects.


"good job" is a positive sentiment
"go away noob" is a negative sentiment.

Ahh, but isn't it usually the negative aspects that lead to the negative sentiment? It can also come from elitists, but negative aspects play a roll in it.

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MadBro_ wrote:

pssst nobody cares anyway.

I certainly hope this part is true, because this is one of the least interesting thread topics I can imagine. A mind that finds this sort of thing interesting, or worth caring about...well, that would make me sad.

you took it in the wrong context unfortunately , it was directed to Hilbert and his behaviour ..As for the the negative subreddit thingie i already have expressed my opinion , it is old news.The toxicity of the community has already been discussed a lot of times and if you want i can also copy paste my "full" opinion on this from a past thread.I dont feel there is the need to do it though .The negativity in this community is something related deeply to the game (imo) anyway and improving it would mean fundementally change the game (removing hc or completely ignoring it as the first step) BUT that would be just plain wrong for me , there is no need to change the game just because of the community.

@Hilbert

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Hilbert wrote:

Where is the effort to improve anything? Name things that improved

As i said THATS the problem with you , you see EVERYTHING black .I am neither a fanboy nor a hater and i can see some things clearly have improved over time in the same way YES some problems still exist .

Name things that have improved? K , I think the optimization of the game has improved , things got tonz better when a decent guy started working at it and i also think it just shows things can become even better and it is just a matter of time.
The amount of content has surely a lot bigger from cb and ob , we are constantly receiving patches and extra content so you cant surely say things havent improved in this front.
Life vs Ci is way more balanced , Ev vs IR is way more balanced , Spells vs attacks is certainly way more balanced etc etc etc.Are they perfect? OFc not, wtf i am not assuming that but the point is THEY HAVE IMPROVED thing which you are so deeply denying.
YOu can finally start playing as a summoner since a1 normal now , when before you had to transition to it.So this means things have improved!
4 Links became way more avaible lately didnt they?5Link also , doesnt this mean things have improved?
Uniques became way more common lately didnt they? You can find way more useful uniques now and everybody who has been playing this time can approve that.So things have improved havent they? No more shit uniques only
Bosses like piety dom etc etc pay off a lot now right? Making some currency outside maps is finally quite possible , doesnt this mean things have improved?


You mention the ingame shop below and gear checks and stupid thhings like this with not a single argument why is so , profit from ingame shop? REALLY? motherfucking really? You are basing all your complaints on the existence of stash tabs when they are absolutely minimal compared to what could be wrong with the game? You are mentioning gear checks yet i dont understand what do you expect from an ARPG ..
What you are saying is to vague anyway..did i say that?

Anyway those are my points , find a decent argument if u can and lets have a nice discussion since you are insisting so much that you are not a troll

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MadBro_ wrote:

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Hilbert wrote:

Where is the effort to improve anything? Name things that improved

As i said THATS the problem with you , you see EVERYTHING black .I am neither a fanboy nor a hater and i can see some things clearly have improved over time in the same way YES some problems still exist .

Name things that have improved? K , I think the optimization of the game has improved , things got tonz better when a decent guy started working at it and i also think it just shows things can become even better and it is just a matter of time.
The amount of content has surely a lot bigger from cb and ob , we are constantly receiving patches and extra content so you cant surely say things havent improved in this front.
Life vs Ci is way more balanced , Ev vs IR is way more balanced , Spells vs attacks is certainly way more balanced etc etc etc.Are they perfect? OFc not, wtf i am not assuming that but the point is THEY HAVE IMPROVED thing which you are so deeply denying.
YOu can finally start playing as a summoner since a1 normal now , when before you had to transition to it.So this means things have improved!
4 Links became way more avaible lately didnt they?5Link also , doesnt this mean things have improved?
Uniques became way more common lately didnt they? You can find way more useful uniques now and everybody who has been playing this time can approve that.So things have improved havent they? No more shit uniques only
Bosses like piety dom etc etc pay off a lot now right? Making some currency outside maps is finally quite possible , doesnt this mean things have improved?


You mention the ingame shop below and gear checks and stupid thhings like this with not a single argument why is so , profit from ingame shop? REALLY? motherfucking really? You are basing all your complaints on the existence of stash tabs when they are absolutely minimal compared to what could be wrong with the game? You are mentioning gear checks yet i dont understand what do you expect from an ARPG ..
What you are saying is to vague anyway..did i say that?

Anyway those are my points , find a decent argument if u can and lets have a nice discussion since you are insisting so much that you are not a troll

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