Remove Lightning Thorns

This is, by far, the most BS, OP buff in the game. My 88th level character runs ten auras and casts three perm curses. She is pure party support and does no DPS. She uses a level 1 Firestorm with Curse on Hit for curse delivery. Her Firestorm does 5.3 DPS, not thousand, just 5.3 and even with nearly 5000 ES, I die outright and immediately against lightning thorns. This mod is not well coded and should be, if not removed from the game, at least made to not insta-gib anyone who touches it. It has ruined ruined mapping for me.

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After getting several characters to decently high levels(80-88) and finding many problems with the design of this game and being continuously ignored by the staff when I point them out, I think I'm either going to be quitting soon or taking a long vacation. Maybe in year or two this game will be playable and actually enjoyable, which seems should be the point of the game; right now it's just frustrating. I could go on for many lines but I won't. I think the most annoying thing is how easily you can get insta-killed in so many different ways combined with the fact that RNG won't drop any maps over 73 for me even though I've been running high level maps for months. So, xp goes away really fast and I can't get any maps to help get the xp back. *sigh* this game has so much potential but it falls on it's face right at the finish line. GGG staff...the game should be fun, not annoying and frustrating.
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CentauriSoldier wrote:
She uses a level 1 Firestorm with Curse on Hit for curse delivery.

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CentauriSoldier wrote:
This is, by far, the most BS, OP buff in the game. My 88th level character runs ten auras and casts three perm curses. She is pure party support and does no DPS. She uses a level 1 Firestorm with Curse on Hit for curse delivery. Her Firestorm does 5.3 DPS, not thousand, just 5.3 and even with nearly 5000 ES, I die outright and immediately against lightning thorns. This mod is not well coded and should be, if not removed from the game, at least made to not insta-gib anyone who touches it. It has ruined ruined mapping for me.

Additional:
After getting several characters to decently high levels(80-88) and finding many problems with the design of this game and being continuously ignored by the staff when I point them out, I think I'm either going to be quitting soon or taking a long vacation. Maybe in year or two this game will be playable and actually enjoyable, which seems should be the point of the game; right now it's just frustrating. I could go on for many lines but I won't. I think the most annoying thing is how easily you can get insta-killed in so many different ways combined with the fact that RNG won't drop any maps over 73 for me even though I've been running high level maps for months. So, xp goes away really fast and I can't get any maps to help get the xp back. *sigh* this game has so much potential but it falls on it's face right at the finish line. GGG staff...the game should be fun, not annoying and frustrating.


GGG: Yep, it's working as intended. Good job everyone.

Me, and everyone else that knows how underpowered it really is: Get 75% lightning resistance, get life leech, and do high damage. Lightning Thorns is Tempest Shield except it doesn't require a block to deal damage. It's damage is based on the rate of damage, and Firestorm has a high rate of damage.

So your 0 DPS Firestorm will deal the same damage to you as though it were max and dealing 999k DPS. The only difference is your 0 DPS Firestorm will kill you while the higher DPS will leech enough to save you.
Last edited by Natharias#4684 on Jun 14, 2014, 2:44:04 AM
No.

Dont wanna die, play smart.
Wow, so your solution is it alter my build to be more like a melee build huh, or maybe a CoC. Lol, so if every build needs to have high damage and Life Leech, why not just eliminate the tree and classes and gems and have us all play the same character.

I run a level 1 Firestorm because I have no mana and also because I'm Party Support, I don't need to do DPS, I add to everyone else's (nearly double most of the time).

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DirkAustin wrote:
No.

Dont wanna die, play smart.

The notion that I MUST have a specific build to survive is stupid. To the poster who says "Play smart", running a level 1 Firestorm as a curse delivery system since I have very little mana is playing smart. It's also very creative. What you mean to say is "play like me, do my build". This is the problem with the game, it punishes players for being creative and innovative and tries to force them into specific builds. The problem with all of the closed and narrow-minded "suggestions" is they lack imagination and further the idea that we should all have a very specific and similar setup.

Also, rather that admitting that a certain mechanic might need altering, people just jump to the defensive stance and start waging war against any opinion that makes such a suggestion as if their religion were under attack. It's so sad that people can't think before they jump to defensive responses, think before they even consider the mechanic in the light of the build in the topic. They go straight to the "do my build, then you won't die" and "nuh uh, the game is perfect, there's nothing wrong with it, you're just stupid" fanboy arguments.

"Get DEEPS"...*sigh* same old song and dance.
Last edited by CentauriSoldier#5802 on Jun 14, 2014, 8:17:59 AM
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CentauriSoldier wrote:
Wow, so your solution is it alter my build to be more like a melee build huh, or maybe a CoC. Lol, so if every build needs to have high damage and Life Leech, why not just eliminate the tree and classes and gems and have us all play the same character.

I run a level 1 Firestorm because I have no mana and also because I'm Party Support, I don't need to do DPS, I add to everyone else's (nearly double most of the time).

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DirkAustin wrote:
No.

Dont wanna die, play smart.

The notion that I MUST have a specific build to survive is stupid. To the poster who says "Play smart", running a level 1 Firestorm as a curse delivery system since I have very little mana is playing smart. It's also very creative. What you mean to say is "play like me, do my build". This is the problem with the game, it punishes players for being creative and innovative and tries to force them into specific builds. The problem with all of the closed and narrow-minded "suggestions" is they lack imagination and further the idea that we should all have a very specific and similar setup.

Also, rather that admitting that a certain mechanic might need altering, people just jump to the defensive stance and start waging war against any opinion that makes such a suggestion as if their religion were under attack. It's so sad that people can't think before they jump to defensive responses, think before they even consider the mechanic in the light of the build in the topic. They go straight to the "do my build, then you won't die" and "nuh uh, the game is perfect, there's nothing wrong with it, you're just stupid" fanboy arguments.

"Get DEEPS"...*sigh* same old song and dance.


Why so defensive all of a sudden? You want it removed because you cant handle the damage and you cant handle the damage because you keep hitting mobs that have it. Therefore my words stand, play smart. Avoid lightning thorns mobs and hit the ones that cast it.

Adapt to the game and not the game to you when it comes to stuff like this at least.

So many people cried about Caliga on the day the patch introduced her and she got nerfed, typical gamer behavior, it can kill me plz nerf or QQ.

I died in HC 2 days ago to a voidbearer rare with the damage buff aura and i didnt make a suggestion of removing those from the game now did i? No, next time i will be more careful and beat any obstacle that is presented before me.

Also, you seem to be in standard so use it as an advantage. Dont come crying because the way you built your char, pure party support is not viable as it is. I got the same kind of char and i die all the damn time. So what?

If you quit because your support build isnt any good then dont do the zones that are dangerous to you or you know, use different builds for different situations to have more fun.
DirkAustin, clearly either you didn't read my original post, didn't fully understand it or are choosing to ignore it.
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CentauriSoldier wrote:
DirkAustin, clearly either you didn't read my original post, didn't fully understand it or are choosing to ignore it.


I read the QQ, thats good enough.

Lightning thorns is a tactical effect. No need to remove it.
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DirkAustin wrote:
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CentauriSoldier wrote:
DirkAustin, clearly either you didn't read my original post, didn't fully understand it or are choosing to ignore it.


I read the QQ, thats good enough.

Lightning thorns is a tactical effect. No need to remove it.



Lol, right, you just overlooked the important parts and the sections regarding the critical thinking aspect of the discussion. It's really my own fault for expecting people to be able to analyze, consider and respond meaningfully. I sometimes forget that many of the players of this game are in their teens and may have not yet acquired the skills needed for full comprehension, non-linear analysis and relevant feedback.
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