Please stop adding more poorly optimized map mods

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kurtcobainsshotgun wrote:

DIDNT you guys know ggg's way of improving the game is to just put more useless crap on the floor--- so now we have millions of bodies all with shiny blood effects leaking from them-- insane amounts of white items-- ground effects etc-- but agreed i try to avoid all ground effect mods on maps as it drops my fps too-- just did desecrated ground on 77 map-- very laggy... also we should be able to turn off extra gore-- shit is lame3

You know you can toggle items on/off right...?

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kurtcobainsshotgun wrote:

DIDNT you guys know ggg's way of improving the game is to just put more useless crap on the floor--- so now we have millions of bodies all with shiny blood effects leaking from them-- insane amounts of white items-- ground effects etc-- but agreed i try to avoid all ground effect mods on maps as it drops my fps too-- just did desecrated ground on 77 map-- very laggy... also we should be able to turn off extra gore-- shit is lame3

Completely agree about extra gore. Items like Bringer of Rain or Carcass Jack are great for my cycloner but cycloning into big packs of mobs (especially large mobs like the big skeletons or golems) with extra gore turns my game into a slide show (which doesn't happen with cyclone without extra gore).

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Guess which mod is common, and which one is rare.

Edit: though I do agree BM should be removed.

Irrelevant, they could've made chaos DoT mod being the same rarity as BM, instead of replacing it with the 2 new ones.

Remove V-Sync, Pre-processing, change the texture to trilinear filtering, remove shadows and lower any other any other effects...it severely increased the performance for me, I don't really have problems with any graphical effects now.

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Emil_kof wrote:

Remove V-Sync

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Which was my point.

A CI build absolutely cannot run a blood magic map.

Some hybrid builds had difficulty with chaos-over-time mod.


You don't see a glaring inconsistency?

What's even stranger, many of those hybrid builds would be more fucked with BM than with chaos-DoT mod, lol.

A ci build requires passive tree key-node investment to proceed and enable it.

A hybrid defense build does not.

And a hybrid build can do blood magic np, it just means going slowly, which is exactly why it is there to begin with, added difficulty.

This mod was an issue because it disabled the 2 forms of defenses a hybrid build utilizes, ES regen and HP regen.

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Boem wrote:

A ci build requires passive tree key-node investment to proceed and enable it.

A hybrid defense build does not.

And a hybrid build can do blood magic np, it just means going slowly, which is exactly why it is there to begin with, added difficulty.

This mod was an issue because it disabled the 2 forms of defenses a hybrid build utilizes, ES regen and HP regen.

I fail to see how is that an argument, a keystone node. A build is a build, whether defined by a keystone or an item.
Hybrid builds could do the chaos DoT maps, CI builds cannot do the BM maps (don't even pull the thorns or Cast on XYZ damage output).
Yet what we have is chaos DoT map mod being removed while BM is here, and the arguments from players are "because it's more rare" and yours now "because CI requires a keystone node".

Ridiculous.

It's not ridicules from a game design perspective.

For Ci you dedicate your character towards it, you invest in a passive build defining key-node.

A hybrid build can "appear" out of nowhere depending on gear. Without any "commitment" to it.

Else there would be a "hybrid key-node" in the passive tree. If there was, your argument would be correct.

And to be fair, the DoT was not "removed" it was replaced with a more tactical version, allowing hybrid builds more freedom. (as in, no longer REQUIRE ZO/GR)

This is a good thing. And no, my statement is not ridicules if you think about it.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Hybrid builds could do the chaos DoT maps

This statement is flawed. Hybrid builds "could" do the chaos DoT maps when specced in a build defining Zealot oath or ghost reaver, would at the other hand be accurate.

The exact situation GGG is trying to fix. The necesity to spec into Zo/Gr for hybrid
play-styles.

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DirkAustin wrote:

Then dont use cyclone or any other desync prone skill?

This the stupidest suggestion someone can come up with.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

I haven't had issues with ground effects since before they were optimized. Fine for me now.

Before they were atrocious though.

It's likely either a fillrate issue or a driver one, if they make a resource call from within the game that the driver doesn't like then it offsets that effect to software (cpu) processing instead of the gpu. And software processing (cpu) of the effects really is that slow and I had that problem with a older nvidia card not wanting to handle the rain or water effects so it made the cpu do it instead (massive fps drop).