Isn't Armor (Determination) plus Evasion (Grace) better than Iron Reflexes?

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sidtherat wrote:
there is also issue of flasks

in theory all gear you wear between fights - besides movement speed boots - is useless. it is needed only DURING a fight

epitome of this are 'flasks' that provide armor/evasion on demand allowing character wearing less than 1k armor have perma-granited AR of 15k+ or more. even non-crit builds can manage enough flasks to last trough all fights that demand them

as long as granites of iron skin can take player with 300 AR to 12k AR without much investment the whole ev/ar discussion looks strange

granites of iron skin are just as broken as surgeons diamond flasks.. but this is ofc unpopular theory because pretty much everyone including me uses them


Proof ? From 300 to 12k means you need overall 300% Armour from gear/passive if you use a granite. And no, i dont assume some1 with 300 Armour is using Determination.
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Maybe he meant 3k to 12k, but granites usually take a player to no more than double. So a 20k player will generally go to 40k on a granite, etc
A player with 3000 armor and no passives will achieve 12000 armor with a granite flask with 100% increased armor. That's the only way it would happen.
If im not mistaken iron skin can roll also on other flasks..

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sidtherat wrote:
If im not mistaken iron skin can roll also on other flasks..



Only the highest roll is applied at once - they do not stack.
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Astarte911 wrote:
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sidtherat wrote:
If im not mistaken iron skin can roll also on other flasks..



Only the highest roll is applied at once - they do not stack.


Never actualy tried that so wasnt certain. What does work is gtanite jade combo. What is also pretty much unavoidable is taking some ev/ar nodes (duelist takes at least one hp/ar and in most cases 24% leather and steel for no movement penalty). Ranger shadow has dex (unless ir) bonus etc etc. Situation when someone has literally zero ar/ev % is pretty much only witch territory..

Anyway. Point is - flasks allow for pretty much free 'acceptable' level od ar/ev esp for crit chars that can simply permaflask when in combat
Jade and granite with IR is retarded. Seen builds with over 100k armor

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