[Closed]Aegis Aurora CI Tempest Shield? Let's Block!!

Instant problems i see with this build:

You do not have nearly enough ES passives to survive with CI now.

All of the points you took to get US can be used to get more block chance/spelldamage and ES, and you can just use a Eye of Chayula unique amulet that will save around 20 passive points you use to get there.

You only have 35% to all resistances from passive, this will require you to get resistance on every piece of gear since merciless has a -60% penalty.

If i may suggest a more viable build that uses Aegis and Ci (even though you can easly deal with chaos damage without it, but since you are a bit stubborn i can make it viable for you):
Passive skill tree build

I also suggest on using 1 type of element for damage (lightning should be it if you intend on using tempest) and i also suggest you take some more critical strike chance nodes after you level the build a bit, i took some in the build i just posted, i also suggest you take the bloodthirst nodes, assassination,spellpower for more critical chance and critical multiplier.

For regeneration, just use a vitality aura.
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Last edited by VictorDoom on Feb 1, 2013, 2:31:05 PM
@VictorDoom
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I see what you mean about the 35% resistances.
I did some rearranging.
I also didn't think about increasing buff effects to buff... well, my many effects.


Here is an updated build

This new build crashes my offline passive builder, so cannot post a new synopsis of skills.
Lost about 2% shield block and gained 30% resistances and increased buff effect.


@Zetsiss,
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Yes I am fully aware of the lack of damage at the moment. Working on it. I wasn't even half way done with this build before I submitted it, as it says at the bottom it is a work in progress.
I just got tired of working out math and need to find some default values.
Or just guinea pig a character. Will just take time.



EDIT: Also, I want to point out that I am aware that 100+ passive points is an irrational assumption for a working build due to the incredibly slow leveling post-80. I will work up some lower level builds around the same thing, but obviously anything below Aegis Aurora will be less than optimal.
Last edited by colexian on Feb 1, 2013, 2:42:25 PM
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colexian wrote:
@VictorDoom
I see what you mean about the 35% resistances.
I did some rearranging.
I also didn't think about increasing buff effects to buff... well, my many effects.

Here is an updated build

This new build crashes my offline passive builder, so cannot post a new synopsis of skills.
Lost about 2% shield block and gained 30% resistances and increased buff effect.


I seriously advise you use the build i posted.
You do not have ES for the endgame.
Iron will will not give you enough dps to kill things easily, at least until they kill you.
You do not have any critical chance nodes, the most important thing for spells.

To just put this in perspective, you have around 100% es increase (more or less) this will roughly double your energy shield from gear. The highest ES armor i have seen this ladder has 500 es, you can lets say maybe get around 1.500-2.000 ES on gear at this time in the ladder with these nerfs.
You will have around 4k es, this is not viable unless you use Ghost Reaver passive and a life leech gem linked to your main spell that suppousedly does massive damage so you can leech your ES back.
And even like this, with 4k es you will get 1 shot, you will get frozen,shocked and burned, you will die to puncture.

You need either a Very big crit chance when going spells or any elemental damage for that matter or just massive damage, you have none.

Eye of chayula saves you a LOT of points, OR you could not take US and just use some summons, that way they will act as a meat shield and you wont get stunned.

Take this advice from a guy who has experience with CI.
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Last edited by VictorDoom on Feb 1, 2013, 2:46:21 PM
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colexian wrote:


Here is an updated build

This new build crashes my offline passive builder, so cannot post a new synopsis of skills.
Lost about 2% shield block and gained 30% resistances and increased buff effect.



you still make some weird (imo) choices.

p.e. you lose 6points in the marauder corner to get 4%block and 30%defences from shields while in the top of the templa area with 7 points you can get 10%block +30%defences from shield +50% block recovery

or (again near that area) you link it to the rest of the build thought the botton (3 +10str nodes) instead from the top (3 +10int nodes)

Last edited by zetiss on Feb 1, 2013, 2:59:11 PM
Ignore my earlier comment about 2 totems... didn't realize the downside was no self-damage.
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zetiss wrote:

you still make some weird (imo) choices.

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p.e. you lose 6points in the marauder corner to get 4%block and 30%defences from shields while in the top of the templa area with 7 points you can get 10%block +30%defences from shield +50% block recovery

or (again near that area) you link it to the rest of the build thought the botton (3 +10str nodes) instead from the top (3 +10int nodes)




Could you modify my most recent build with the listed changes?
I do not see what you are talking about, but it seems extremely efficient.
I am running on 22 hours without sleep at the moment so it is possible I completely skipped over something important.
Also, hate to double post, but do you guys think that neglecting some shield block or something less useful in order to obtain Ghost Reaver to then combine a life leech gem to the primary aoe might give the build the sustain it needs in combination with Aurora Aegis?
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colexian wrote:
Also, hate to double post, but do you guys think that neglecting some shield block or something less useful in order to obtain Ghost Reaver to then combine a life leech gem to the primary aoe might give the build the sustain it needs in combination with Aurora Aegis?


Yes, with the amount of Es you have you will not survive anything, With Gr+LL you will survive lesser mobs, but expect to die, a lot, with CI now.
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Last edited by VictorDoom on Feb 1, 2013, 3:01:22 PM
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colexian wrote:
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zetiss wrote:

you still make some weird (imo) choices.

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p.e. you lose 6points in the marauder corner to get 4%block and 30%defences from shields while in the top of the templa area with 7 points you can get 10%block +30%defences from shield +50% block recovery

or (again near that area) you link it to the rest of the build thought the botton (3 +10str nodes) instead from the top (3 +10int nodes)




Could you modify my most recent build with the listed changes?
I do not see what you are talking about, but it seems extremely efficient.
I am running on 22 hours without sleep at the moment so it is possible I completely skipped over something important.


edit: this looks better:
-1sp
-80str
-10dex
+80int
+6%block
+50% block recovery

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBAecCcQQHBLMFWwx9DPcQfxHbGNcZLhoyHRQfAiQlJIsn7SjFKS4pTyy_LR8xATS-NYA2xTboN0c6UjrYPC09Dz38Q2NFR0w1TLNN2E99UWBUSVWpVgRXDVj1Xz9giGFSZp5m2Weba6xtGXFNd2J8uHy7f8aAVoFvhmCIuox2j0aXtJrPna6dxJ48ns2fy6C0oqOnCKcwqZWsurRztQS3MbiTud3BxcHzw23E9saexq7SIdSP2CTZYeQi51Lp1ewY7DjvDvIv877z3ffB-tL7qg==

also NO on ghost reaver.

the more block the expotentially better it becomes:

if you have 50% and you add 25% more p.e. you take half damage from before and etc. add that to spell block that you get and ghost reaver seems less nice now.

if anything you should really think of a way to get cheaper auras since ideally you want to be running vitality/discipline/tempest/determination and there is no way you can all those with your mana pool. so you will probabl just run tempest/discipline
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zetiss wrote:

edit: this looks better:
Spoiler

-1sp
-80str
-10dex
+80int
+6%block
+50% block recovery

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBAecCcQQHBLMFWwx9DPcQfxHbGNcZLhoyHRQfAiQlJIsn7SjFKS4pTyy_LR8xATS-NYA2xTboN0c6UjrYPC09Dz38Q2NFR0w1TLNN2E99UWBUSVWpVgRXDVj1Xz9giGFSZp5m2Weba6xtGXFNd2J8uHy7f8aAVoFvhmCIuox2j0aXtJrPna6dxJ48ns2fy6C0oqOnCKcwqZWsurRztQS3MbiTud3BxcHzw23E9saexq7SIdSP2CTZYeQi51Lp1ewY7DjvDvIv877z3ffB-tL7qg==

also NO on ghost reaver.

the more block the expotentially better it becomes:

if you have 50% and you add 25% more p.e. you take half damage from before and etc. add that to spell block that you get and ghost reaver seems less nice now.

if anything you should really think of a way to get cheaper auras since ideally you want to be running vitality/discipline/tempest/determination and there is no way you can all those with your mana pool. so you will probabl just run tempest/discipline


I really like the changes. That seems much more efficient.
Also, we could lose 50% armor from the very bottom and add it near CI to get 34% increased ES... not sure if that would be worth it or not.
Or maybe there are 4 less valuable points somewhere?

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