why vaal discipline 3 sec base????

Eaaah what's the problem seams OK if you spare a few slots. You guys seen vaal ground slam? Now that could use some love.

3 seconds is just long enough to refill an empty ES bulb. That makes sense to me.

You can think of this gem as a bit like an ES 'flask' that heals your whole party.

How does this interact with regular Discipline gem?
Does it overwrite the regular Discipline and in that case, do you still have mana reservation from regular aura and do you have to recast Discipline after Vaal Discipline ends?

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Diphal wrote:

How does this interact with regular Discipline gem?
Does it overwrite the regular Discipline and in that case, do you still have mana reservation from regular aura and do you have to recast Discipline after Vaal Discipline ends?

They don't really interact. Completely separate effects.

using it as a potion doesent seems to worth it much....

the boost is only nice for an ES party, and it's a few sec nova that doesent worth it,

boss fight takes alot longer,

and like the vall haste, it shuld have been 6 sec, usless like this

Vaal Discipline on an ES-Based RF Build. Now THAT is snapshotting... Yey, even more snapshotting abuse for Uber Atziri! :P

But I guess RF "needed" (jk :P) it, seeing as how all RF Atziri killers rerolled a Flubby [snapshot abuse] build to even be able to do Uber 'Tziri.

Inb4 1.2 and RF/Aura snapshots is RIP. Abuse it while you can. ~.^

Imho, the aura is incredible QoL - chaos degen maps can be a pain in the ass to run through if you are low-life and use Blood Rage, now we can hit the ES button when we are at 20% ES, GG.

It's that duration so it's not abused - do you really think that GGG will allow you to double your ES for any duration of time? Imho - good design, good call.

This gem is op

i don't get you guys....

see my build, thread 891072,

i can run vall discipline for 7.5 sec (3 base + ID gem + 45% nodes that i need anyways),

let's say that i'm "immortal" at these 7.5 sec....

i can allso run this

and have it active for 7.7 sec (with 3 endurance charges) and realy be immortal....

or.... i can use this ,

and put a life leech on it, and it will last for 25 sec....

what is better in the trade off? NONE!

if the vall discipline was 6 sec, the 15 sec of insane heal vs bosses, would worth it,

like this, it's useless, try it in battle....

allso, there is a bug at the duration seen on the tooltip,

the nodes 45% increased is not seen, the actual time however, is right,

Then don´t use it if you don´t like it? I think it's fine as it is. I use it as an "es flask", pop it when I'm in a sticky situation to get my es back almost instantly.