GGG rollercoaster of incompetence in Invasion league

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Brelm wrote:

so basically, fuck anyone who plays melee?

vs Osseciati? Yes.

Difficulty to beat some invasion bosses depend on specific builds or gems. Inti of the Blood Moon will be easier for someone who uses detonate dead. Sunburst Queen can be easily sniped by character with ethereal knives or some aoe dmg with pierce(so you can take out all summoned minions and hit boss). Wiraq, the Impaler and his berserker mode is much easier to survive for a guy using pure evasion. Shield charge works really good against Thornrunner(snake with proximity shield). Sheaq, Maker of Floods is deadly for summoner character because his fireball have "Fork" etc.

Melee characters are fucked up vs most of the invasion bosses but this league requires specific builds to work. You cant just demand perfect balance because its probably impossible to achieve in this game. Ranged characters have advantage in surviving and thats how it is. Melee character is still viable but u have to avoid some crazy bosses.

Although I saw in random party melee character who freeze all mobs and then kill everything with double strike. we were doing maps and we killed one of the hardest invasion bosses "Kutec, Vaal Fleshsmith" with this tactic. I dont know how it works exactly. Probably freeze mine + elemental proliferation.

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Cergic wrote:

And no one is BLAMING others for failures. You can have problems, and that's usually a personal responsebility to fix. However, Invasion generates problems for the players, BUT it's GGG's Fault and responsebility to tune it down. The league is shit, period.

Other nutsacks have asked the same silly questions you have, and it's been answered x100 times. Read other threads.

I read some of them and I played with random players who died because of invasion boss. After RIP they blame game mechanics/ggg/Obama/Jesus Christ etc. The truth is they had low resist/low hp/played stupid rushing things like leeroy jenkins. One of the memorable RIP blamefest was a guy who rushed with us dominus on normal with 800hp and 20% light resist. He went with us to cruel difficulty and died tanking Harbinger of Elements. One of the easiest boss in invasion. Guess who was responsible for his death? GGG.

Listen dude... if u dont like invasion then dont play invasion. You still have hardcore league. Whats the problem?

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BoondockSaint wrote:

My char was ranged on one side of the screen, Osecati was on other side

so it was desync right? If yes then Im sorry for you.

Desync is the real problem in POE and I think it cant be repaired. Unfortunately GGG are not great at writing code. Im guessing that to fix desync they would have to write POE from the start.
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btw. once again... if you people dont like invasion then you can play hardcore league. Nobody force you to play invasion. GGG made hardest league with tons of things that can kill players in seconds. There are players who enjoy it because of the challenge but I understand that lot of people are hating league for insane difficulty. Nevertheless the game is not BROKEN because u still can play hardcore league without invasion shit or even uninstall game. I dont get it why u all cry about one league... POE is not only invasion. Its not broken. It could be broken if you had to play only Invasion league but nobody's forcing you guys...

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azoriuss wrote:

Melee characters are fucked up vs most of the invasion bosses but this league requires specific builds to work. You cant just demand perfect balance because its probably impossible to achieve in this game. Ranged characters have advantage in surviving and thats how it is. Melee character is still viable but u have to avoid some crazy bosses.

I'm not demanding perfect balance, I'm asking them to at least try, or as they say 'the impossible just takes a little more time'.

Well yes, playing regular hardcore is always an option, those four to five other guys that play it are probably pretty lonely.

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raics wrote:

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azoriuss wrote:

Melee characters are fucked up vs most of the invasion bosses but this league requires specific builds to work. You cant just demand perfect balance because its probably impossible to achieve in this game. Ranged characters have advantage in surviving and thats how it is. Melee character is still viable but u have to avoid some crazy bosses.

I'm not demanding perfect balance, I'm asking them to at least try.

You think its easy to balance POE with complicated skill tree, tons of items and tons of combination of gems? Think about it... there will be always better builds. If you want to balance game to give melee players easier game then ranged characters would have absolutely not a problem to faceroll every boss with closed eyes.

You guys think balancing game like POE is a piece of cake. How many multiplayer games are balanced these days? I know only one: Chess.

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raics wrote:

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azoriuss wrote:

Melee characters are fucked up vs most of the invasion bosses but this league requires specific builds to work. You cant just demand perfect balance because its probably impossible to achieve in this game. Ranged characters have advantage in surviving and thats how it is. Melee character is still viable but u have to avoid some crazy bosses.

I'm not demanding perfect balance, I'm asking them to at least try, or as they say 'the impossible just takes a little more time'.

Well yes, playing regular hardcore is always an option, those four to five other guys that play it are probably pretty lonely.

You get used to the echo in sarn after a while. lol

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azoriuss wrote:

I read some of them and I played with random players who died because of invasion boss. After RIP they blame game mechanics/ggg/Obama/Jesus Christ etc. The truth is they had low resist/low hp/played stupid rushing things like leeroy jenkins. One of the memorable RIP blamefest was a guy who rushed with us dominus on normal with 800hp and 20% light resist. He went with us to cruel difficulty and died tanking Harbinger of Elements. One of the easiest boss in invasion. Guess who was responsible for his death? GGG.

please leave this 20% lightning res kindergarten for other threads

just now i was hit by totem boss's invisible flameblast twice(!) for half HP
the only reason i didn't die is because my 81% fire was overcapped all the way to 169%
even if it used fire pen i was good

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azoriuss wrote:

Listen dude... if u dont like invasion then dont play invasion. You still have hardcore league. Whats the problem?

the problem is that these new bosses will be in HC too in 3 months
what will you say?
don't play HC, play SC?

and then?

play another game?

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CCR5 wrote:

please leave this 20% lightning res kindergarten for other threads

just now i was hit by totem boss's invisible flameblast twice(!) for half HP
the only reason i didn't die is because my 81% fire was overcapped all the way to 169%
even if it used fire pen i was good

That isn't how fire pen works, that is how flammability and elemental weakness work. Fire pen works on current max and ignores overcapped... that 81% with 40% fire pen would've been 41% regardless of overcapping to 169%. If he had fire pen you would've likely died in one blast because it would've more then doubled your damage taken (prob at least a 50% pen value).

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azoriuss wrote:

You guys think balancing game like POE is a piece of cake. How many multiplayer games are balanced these days? I know only one: Chess.

Oh, there are all kinds of games, both balanced and unbalanced, but I can almost guarantee no popular online game out there has this number of crap mechanics, exceptions and poorly tested additions as we see in PoE these days. If the game is too complex for you to balance - that's great, you only need to simplify it then (not dumb down, simplify). The first step is admitting it to yourself.

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Jiero wrote:

That isn't how fire pen works

OK
I didn't know that.
Mg'aska doesn't cast curses, so...

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raics wrote:

Oh, there are all kinds of games, both balanced and unbalanced, but I can almost guarantee no popular online game out there has this number of crap mechanics, exceptions and poorly tested additions as we see in PoE these days. If the game is too complex for you to balance - that's great, you only need to simplify it then (not dumb down, simplify). The first step is admitting it to yourself.

Mate, even Blizzard struggle with balance in his games. Starcraft 2 for example. They were lucky with Starcraft: Brood war, it was quite balanced but now they cant do it again. In my opinion its really hard to find great balance in games with lot of details. Im not sure if simplifing things is a great idea... We would have threads "omg ggg u ruined my game, why u simplified X..." :)

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CCR5 wrote:

the problem is that these new bosses will be in HC too in 3 months
what will you say?
don't play HC, play SC?

and then?

play another game?

are you some kind of prophet? You exactly know what happen in 3 months? What about next year? What do you think will happen with poe? What about hating things POE in 2015?



Guys I will end now this discussion. Its waste of time for us because I cant argument vs predictions about what will happen in 3 months:)

Take care guys, stay safe!