In two weeks PoE will have less STEAM players than at the end of last leagues

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Arrowneous wrote:

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sneax1234 wrote:

The value of things if often in its scarcity. When it comes to video games if everyone has something it's value is diminished (I'm this case the joy of having a specific item or getting a drop). If you make things less exclusive you diminish their value. If things have no value their is less excitement in having them. Just like in life he have's enjoy the things the have nots don't, and that just makes the thing that much sweeter. This forces some people to excel and flourish and others to meander in self pity and blame the system.

If you don't like how cut throat and oppressive the system is go play a bs game like ros and find that without meaning (in this game getting what others don't have) there is not much reason to play. RPGs are about gear, that's where the fun is in a game like this. You have chosen to play a game that has a steep climb, it makes getting to the top sweeter but not everyone is cut out for it or enjoys having to invest the time,

Instead of complaining trying to make this game something it's not, go play something more suited to what you want. Seen far to many games turn to utter trash because of people that assume everyone who does well in an rpg or mmo is simply a no lifer.

Wow, are you the PoE fanboy poster child or what?

 GGG can make PoE as super hard as they desire but in the end if a super hard PoE drives out most of the players and they go bankrupt then even the uber hardcore players lose. Your kind of mindset will lead to the destruction of GGG as the few uber hardcore players left will not generate enough revenue to keep GGG in business. Of course I could be wrong and GGG may be content with a small but loyal group of diehard followers of PoE and eek out an existence as a niche arpg. If that is what GGG wants then so be it. It's their creation and they can take it mainstream or keep it narrow and super hardcore focused. Only GGG can clarify to us their long term plans for PoE development.

Note: If GGG is content with focusing only on super hardcore then that is their prerogative. Just don't be surprised when one day you find out that GGG has closed it's doors permanently.

 Edit:  Of course it really doesn't need to be as polarizing as these debates on whether PoE is too hard and too flawed for its own survival. I've stated before that GGG needs to add more permanent leagues to keep the hardcore fans happy with increasing difficulty and also offer other leagues with more of a relaxed arpg playing experience that has broader appeal to the less than uber-hardcore fans of arpg gaming so GGG can stay in business through act X.

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patataz wrote:

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sneax1234 wrote:

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patataz wrote:

meaning the die hard fans get to eat their green tart apples in the same way and at the same time attract more players

you think checkpoints is casual friendly? At best it saves someone a minute or two, doesn't really change the way the game is played or make it easier, if anything its a QoL improvement. Christ some people are retarded.

lol, isnt that what i just said... wow, some people need better reading comprehension. makes me think that the retard comment you said actually applies to you.

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sneax1234 wrote:

You also don't know business, every game needs funding to survive but you have to know what your market is. If PoE decides to open the spigots and makes this a casual catering game, what is their competition? Do they think they can beat Bliz at the mass market casual game? Whose to say where it would end up if that's the route they go, but those are the things that an intelligent person would consider. Just changing the game to cater to casuals doesn't = success, they are the best product on the market for a certain niche of gamers. If they forgo that audience to appeal to a broader one, the competition is much higher and the results are uncertain.

and again... if people only have better reading comprehension, you'll know that when i say

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patataz wrote:

that GGG is doing it smartly by making these changes and incorporating them as options. meaning the die hard fans get to eat their green tart apples in the same way and at the same time attract more players, which will potentially increase funding and add to the longevity of the game

it means, it's still maintaining it's unique flavor and at the same time slicing into the bigger market.

so, probably your business acumen needs improvement as well.

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sneax1234 wrote:

Chris LITERALLY said less than 2 weeks ago the game population is healthy. I don't think they are in any rush to try ruin the games integrity to make some quick cash. That's not what GGG has been about. If it was, they would have made changes long ago.

well, those are words. how about coming up with real numbers??? im sure there's a motivating reason for them to make this noob friendly change.

and if you're still clueless, i rest my case and you may continue if you wish, so have at it :)

oh, i cant help but give you some clues below...

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Xavderion wrote:

To stay on topic, here's what Chris says about this:

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I'm very glad that the aggregate player graphs don't look as scary as that!...

...If you have a better marketing/acquisition/retention strategy , please let me know :)

#1) not as scary = still scary...
#2) better marketing/acquisition/retention strategy = the results of their current model is apparently described in #1

need i say more?

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PoorJoy wrote:

i like how chris is answering on the reddit thread and totaly ignores the home board. /facepalm

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Mythicpoe wrote:

It's probably due to people getting owned in invasion and quitting because they cant handle it.

Oh, and for your information, not everyone uses steam.
(I dont)
So, it's not accurate at all.

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f) I don't believe that the difficulty of Invasion significantly affected the above graph. The average churned player was playing Standard or Ambush, because they're the most popular leagues. While Invasion may have been too difficult, we still want to keep a decent level of challenge in future hardcore leagues.

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reboticon wrote:

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NavarreElder wrote:

A lot more people don't use Steam than those that do.

Your graph means nothing except that there aren't as many Steam users playing.

Considering the game had a huge following BEFORE it was available on Steam, your statement and this thread are meaningless.

That's why, when they do polls, instead of doing a random sampling they literally poll every person in existence, right?

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jebroni wrote:

Invasion is not a hardcore league. It's the complete opposite. It's the "run like a little girl" league because the bosses do THAT much damage. If you want to make it challenging, at least make the odds non-zero..