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BoondockSaint wrote:
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Fujira wrote:
Same thing happened to my 89 Mara. 5600 hp, 14k armor, 79% fire-res. Didnt stand remotely close to him and died from 100% hp in one hit in 74 map with no dmg mods.
In lvl 78 white map Osecati does 9000 phys dmg and 9000 fire dmg with his smash. so 18 000 hit.
If you add any mods on that, or if he by any chance crits, dmg can go up to 30-40k.
There is no gear, no armour, no skill that can help you if he desync, or if you enter a room and dont notice him, or any other reason. No matter what noobs in this thread say, that you need 10k+ armour and they dont even know how armour works, lol, , or that its easy boss if you avoid him and so on.
Osecati is legacy boss from untested Invasion league, also pure retardation like every other legacy in this game.
On a lvl 76 Academy, with 25%increased monster damage, he hitted me for 4.5k (14k Armour, 85 Fireres)
So i think...you are wrong with your "18k" hit..
Welcome to the greatest of arenas, Duelist. God is watching you.
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Posted byAstarte911#6271on Jun 23, 2014, 4:14:06 AM
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BoondockSaint wrote:
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Fujira wrote:
Same thing happened to my 89 Mara. 5600 hp, 14k armor, 79% fire-res. Didnt stand remotely close to him and died from 100% hp in one hit in 74 map with no dmg mods.
In lvl 78 white map Osecati does 9000 phys dmg and 9000 fire dmg with his smash. so 18 000 hit.
If you add any mods on that, or if he by any chance crits, dmg can go up to 30-40k.
There is no gear, no armour, no skill that can help you if he desync, or if you enter a room and dont notice him, or any other reason. No matter what noobs in this thread say, that you need 10k+ armour and they dont even know how armour works, lol, , or that its easy boss if you avoid him and so on.
Osecati is legacy boss from untested Invasion league, also pure retardation like every other legacy in this game.
Hey i can say random numbers too! junglemare deals 57658 physical and 493453453 astral damage!!
On a serious note: he hitted me for roughly 4k with 25k armor and 76 fire res in a 75 map. Shitted my pants
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Posted byMahesys#6567on Jun 23, 2014, 4:21:53 AM
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hey you 2 fanboys, Astarte and Mahesys, i talked with Henry from GGG, he gave me those numbers after i riped from that fucker with 9000 life, oneshoted, tons of armour and resistances. Feel free to ask him. Maybe you could try to find out facts sometimes and not just blindy defend something you know nothing about.
And ofc its not 18 000 dmg since very small portion is mitigated by armour, and fire dmg can be mitigated A LOT more since resistances are working properly, but point stands.
Still if you get hit by him in lvl 78 map with some dmg mods or if he crits you are dead, no exceptions.
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Posted byBoondockSaint#2040on Jun 23, 2014, 4:38:46 AM
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BoondockSaint wrote:
hey you 2 fanboys, Astarte and Mahesys, i talked with Henry from GGG, he gave me those numbers after i riped from that fucker with 9000 life, oneshoted, tons of armour and resistances. Feel free to ask him. Maybe you could try to find out facts sometimes and not just blindy defend something you know nothing about.
And ofc its not 18 000 dmg since very small portion is mitigated by armour, and fire dmg can be mitigated A LOT more since resistances are working properly, but point stands.
Still if you get hit by him in lvl 78 map with some dmg mods or if he crits you are dead, no exceptions.
This has nothing to do with blind defense. I kill him everytime i find him and im rotating 76-78 maps only.
In best case, henry_ggg told you he "can" hit for 18k, if you have 0 armour and 0 fire res, which means thats a crit allready without any imigation.
2 players that facetank him telling you that he doesn't 1 shot, whats the point of saying we blind defense ?!
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9k 9k would lead with 15k armour and 85 res to:
0.15*9k = 1.35k fire
(1-0.13)*9k= 7.83k phys
Thats a ~9k crit or a ~4k non-crit (like i said, 4.5k arround on a 76 with 25%increased dmg)
Pop a ruby flask and a granite and its easy as shit.
Welcome to the greatest of arenas, Duelist. God is watching you.
Last edited by Astarte911#6271 on Jun 23, 2014, 5:15:50 AM
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Posted byAstarte911#6271on Jun 23, 2014, 5:07:09 AM
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BoondockSaint wrote:
hey you 2 fanboys, Astarte and Mahesys, i talked with Henry from GGG, he gave me those numbers after i riped from that fucker with 9000 life, oneshoted, tons of armour and resistances. Feel free to ask him. Maybe you could try to find out facts sometimes and not just blindy defend something you know nothing about.
And ofc its not 18 000 dmg since very small portion is mitigated by armour, and fire dmg can be mitigated A LOT more since resistances are working properly, but point stands.
Still if you get hit by him in lvl 78 map with some dmg mods or if he crits you are dead, no exceptions.
Hey you hater, when did he gave you those numbers? because now after the third nerf they don't seem correct. Else i would have died as well as Astarte
Also feel free to quote him if he said so
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Posted byMahesys#6567on Jun 23, 2014, 5:07:16 AM
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BoondockSaint wrote:
hey you 2 fanboys, Astarte and Mahesys, i talked with Henry from GGG, he gave me those numbers after i riped from that fucker with 9000 life, oneshoted, tons of armour and resistances. Feel free to ask him. Maybe you could try to find out facts sometimes and not just blindy defend something you know nothing about.
And ofc its not 18 000 dmg since very small portion is mitigated by armour, and fire dmg can be mitigated A LOT more since resistances are working properly, but point stands.
Still if you get hit by him in lvl 78 map with some dmg mods or if he crits you are dead, no exceptions.
Actually, if you double pots to reach 80k armour, you could absorb roughly 75% of a 9000 dmg incoming hit.
Still, you just pull number out of your magic hat, and then claim that they have been given by GGG, where Mahesys gave you a situation where he survived and was able to measure the incoming hit so ....
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jun 23, 2014, 5:16:09 AM
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Posted byFruz#6137on Jun 23, 2014, 5:14:01 AM
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Astarte911 wrote:
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BoondockSaint wrote:
hey you 2 fanboys, Astarte and Mahesys, i talked with Henry from GGG, he gave me those numbers after i riped from that fucker with 9000 life, oneshoted, tons of armour and resistances. Feel free to ask him. Maybe you could try to find out facts sometimes and not just blindy defend something you know nothing about.
And ofc its not 18 000 dmg since very small portion is mitigated by armour, and fire dmg can be mitigated A LOT more since resistances are working properly, but point stands.
Still if you get hit by him in lvl 78 map with some dmg mods or if he crits you are dead, no exceptions.
This has nothing to do with blind defense. I kill him everytime i find him and im rotating 76-78 maps only.
In best case, henry_ggg told you he "can" hit for 18k, if you have 0 armour and 0 fire res, which means thats a crit allready without any imigation.
2 players that facetank him telling you that he doesn't 1 shot, whats the point of saying we blind defense ?!
Edit
9k 9k would lead with 15k armour and 85 res to:
0.15*9k = 1.35k fire
(1-0.13)*9k= 7.83k phys
Thats a ~9k crit or a ~4k non-crit (like i said, 4.5k arround on a 76 with 25%increased dmg)
Pop a ruby flask and a granite and its easy as shit.
When someone says to you mob X can hit up to 9000 dmg, he means "hit", otherwise he would say mob X can crit up to 9000 dmg. Yes most fire dmg is mitigated through resists. And yes there are builds, items and exploits in the game that MAY give you chance to facetank him. Also yes this was 2 months ago before i quit since Invasion league was not tested and not meant to be played.
And now to my point, which you failed to see, is that in a game as shit as this one technical wise, there are 0 reasons to have mobs like this in game, no sane person would do that. If the game was not broken there might be reasons, but not in this desync shit pool.
So you saying you can facetank osecati with your gear, build, exploit means nothing if game does not desynch and you have time to see attack and pop all your pots, cast imortal and all other crap. But if the game desynch and you dont do all that shit you are dead. Which fucking happen more then not.
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Posted byBoondockSaint#2040on Jun 23, 2014, 5:34:18 AM
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Mahesys wrote:
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BoondockSaint wrote:
hey you 2 fanboys, Astarte and Mahesys, i talked with Henry from GGG, he gave me those numbers after i riped from that fucker with 9000 life, oneshoted, tons of armour and resistances. Feel free to ask him. Maybe you could try to find out facts sometimes and not just blindy defend something you know nothing about.
And ofc its not 18 000 dmg since very small portion is mitigated by armour, and fire dmg can be mitigated A LOT more since resistances are working properly, but point stands.
Still if you get hit by him in lvl 78 map with some dmg mods or if he crits you are dead, no exceptions.
Hey you hater, when did he gave you those numbers? because now after the third nerf they don't seem correct. Else i would have died as well as Astarte
Also feel free to quote him if he said so
On April 9. i had conversation with Henry, and only conclusion i can have here is that only factor in this game is luck, RNG rapes you where ever you are and you cant hide, be that orb drops, links, uniques, dmg from mobs, map drops, desync. Nice game.
Heya,
Alright, I've checked the damage from Ossecati in Palace, and compared it to the damage dealt by Vaal's groundslam in Maze.
Ossecati in a white Palace map can deal up to 9k physical damage from his groundslam.
Vaal in a white Maze map can deal up to 10k physical damage from his groundslam.
You comparing a lvl 78 Invasion boss, to a lvl 74 Map boss isn't quite fair, as there is a 4 level difference between the maps. But also, they're different types of bosses. The Invasion bosses are intended to be extra deadly when compared to other regular bosses.
However, the real problem here, is your perception of the amount of damage any given boss can deal. You claimed you could survive a Vaal groundslam in Maze, yet, Vaal hits harder than Ossecati(or rather, has the potential to). The fact that you may have survived a groundslam from Vaal is purely out of luck; luck in the roll that determines how much damage the attack will do, that is. So on average, you may survive more groundslam hits from Vaal because they aren't as frequent, and the damage range it can roll varies. With Ossecati, his groundslams are more frequent, so you'll end up taking more hits from them, and because he can hit nearly as hard as Vaal can, it makes it seem like he is much more powerful than he really is, when compared to Vaal.
I hope this clears the situation up for you and helps you to understand that your character dying to Ossecati in the way it did, is intended and not a bug of some kind. Ossecati's damage values were not changed in the last patch, so this isn't the result of an oversight by one of our programmers.
Regards,
Henry
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Posted byBoondockSaint#2040on Jun 23, 2014, 5:38:57 AM
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Fruz wrote:
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BoondockSaint wrote:
hey you 2 fanboys, Astarte and Mahesys, i talked with Henry from GGG, he gave me those numbers after i riped from that fucker with 9000 life, oneshoted, tons of armour and resistances. Feel free to ask him. Maybe you could try to find out facts sometimes and not just blindy defend something you know nothing about.
And ofc its not 18 000 dmg since very small portion is mitigated by armour, and fire dmg can be mitigated A LOT more since resistances are working properly, but point stands.
Still if you get hit by him in lvl 78 map with some dmg mods or if he crits you are dead, no exceptions.
Actually, if you double pots to reach 80k armour, you could absorb roughly 75% of a 9000 dmg incoming hit.
Still, you just pull number out of your magic hat, and then claim that they have been given by GGG, where Mahesys gave you a situation where he survived and was able to measure the incoming hit so ....
Learn how armour works then come back.
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Posted byBoondockSaint#2040on Jun 23, 2014, 5:39:41 AM
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comparing pre-nerf Ossecatti with post-last-nerf Ossecatti is not cool
mmkay?
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Posted byCCR5#7770on Jun 23, 2014, 5:44:55 AM
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