Dead League Nemesis?

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DirkAustin wrote:

Endgame? That's not even first base.

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Bluntski wrote:

Game has no end-game. I barely play anymore.

You have a lvl 69 and barely out of docks.

....................my point is valid.

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ohrlylol wrote:

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Bluntski wrote:

Game has no end-game. I barely play anymore.

You have a lvl 69 and barely out of docks.

....................my point is valid.

Regardless of my personal progress I have buddies that have played to what you are call an "end game".

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sidtherat wrote:

standard ISNT as busy as always. im playing standard from day 0 and now it is almost dead. when you log in into trade chat 1 and there is noone in trade chat 3 that is a sign (And to all saying - people are using poe.xyz - yeah right, im trying to buy a fencoil staff for 3 days already and all people are offline, graveyard!)

and it is not 'as always' dom/ons is the second time leagues are up so it is not business as usual.

and 'im not playing because lagues are ending' - what kind of a reason is that? what is has with anything? you dont find game interesting so you are not playing. just say it. 'leagues are ending' is one of the lamest mass excuse ever. or maybe you are trading/rmt and there is not much demand for currency when people are already stocked?

Could be how you play too.
I have never traded, so I base none of my experience on the population of trading.

I had the trade channel on once, until I learned how to shut it off.

The leagues ending is valid. I've only played Domination, with the odd peek into standard, and several players I know (RL buds) have taken a break because of the league time-line.

Me though? I'm still playing, but I play several games, and come and go.

As for RMT, again I don't trade. None of my buds that play trade either.
Could be a lot of those playing are like-minded as I, I don't care how much emphasis GGG puts on trade, I ain't doing it, and you'd never even know I played if all you gauge is trade-chat. I do not trade. At all. My char is lvl 85, it's a non-issue reaching end-game/maps etc without trade.

EDIT* with how cumbersome trading is here, I strongly feel that many avoid it entirely as I do, and it should not be a basis for population analysis. Seriously. No one I've ever met in-game trades but one, and it's all he did. He is also interestingly, the one that is no longer playing out of all my friends.

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DirkAustin wrote:

She reminds me of one of Hailrake's spastic groupies on the Tidal Island....

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Bluntski wrote:

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ohrlylol wrote:

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Bluntski wrote:

Game has no end-game. I barely play anymore.

You have a lvl 69 and barely out of docks.

....................my point is valid.

Regardless of my personal progress I have buddies that have played to what you are call an "end game".

Kole story bro

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ohrlylol wrote:

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Bluntski wrote:

Game has no end-game. I barely play anymore.

Kole story bro

truth be told - once you can clear 75+ maps you ARE at the end game. lvl has nothing to do with it

game will not change after that point. it is long mundane grind up to lvl100

and the best part - what stops most people from doing ie lvl76 maps is the RNG. not the difficulty

some bosses are broken and these are universally skipped

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sidtherat wrote:

truth be told - once you can clear 75+ maps you ARE at the end game. lvl has nothing to do with it. game will not change after that point. it is long mundane grind up to lvl100

Grinding for gear or XP after beating the end boss of the highest difficulty *IS* the end game in ARPGs. Are people new to the genre and only have MMO experience, or why is this always such a surprise?

Could it be improved? Probably. What game can't? The fact remains that not a single ARPG has more end game content than PoE, and most have less. (D2 has some very archaic form of PvP, but that was done by very few people only and never had any official support.)

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Mivo wrote:

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sidtherat wrote:

truth be told - once you can clear 75+ maps you ARE at the end game. lvl has nothing to do with it. game will not change after that point. it is long mundane grind up to lvl100

Grinding for gear or XP after beating the end boss of the highest difficulty *IS* the end game in ARPGs. Are people new to the genre and only have MMO experience, or why is this always such a surprise?

Could it be improved? Probably. What game can't? The fact remains that not a single ARPG has more end game content than PoE, and most have less. (D2 has some very archaic form of PvP, but that was done by very few people only and never had any official support.)

so now i dont understand. someone here was dissed because he wasnt already in the 'end game'

but if end game is xp/loot grind then it has nothing to do with difficulty but efficiency. and well known fact is that in poe efficiency means faceroling content, not accepting challenges - easy maps, twin bosses, inhibitation affixes. doing maps -max, +ele weaknes +ele reflect will not make anyone famous and decreases efficiency a lot. it is harder but thats not the point of grind for loot/xp


it is possible to grind loot already doing piety as she drops plenty of chaos and occasionally a soultaker or bor

on the other hand if 'end game' means end maps then just as ive said - once you can do 75+ content then you already cleared the end game because no matter what level you are - game will not get any harder after that. ofc unless you fall asleep 'doing content'

only few (probably less than 50) players clear all bosses, because some are simply absurdly powerful compared to rewards they bring