Problem with freeze mine: 0 investment required.

You dont need gear or passives.

Just a 2L and you are laughing.

Permafreeze is cheap, but its also pretty cool. I think it should be left in the game, but only if players actually invest in the skill.

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Teridax wrote:

You dont need gear or passives.

Just a 2L and you are laughing.

Permafreeze is cheap, but its also pretty cool. I think it should be left in the game, but only if players actually invest in the skill.

I tried it and it doesn't seem viable. What that means is "I need a tutorial". Cause it really sucks as a skill when you're clued out (like me!) about how to do this OP thingy other players are obviously doing.

After all of the complaints about aura and DoT etc... changes that GGG did to make it so you needed to invest in those skills for them to be awesome, GGG must be pretty happy about this thread. Finally somebody is complaining that you don't need any investment to make a skill awesome.

I guess not. They are propably gathered around the screen right now with angry looks on their faces and shaking their fists.

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Teridax wrote:

You dont need gear or passives.

Just a 2L and you are laughing.

Permafreeze is cheap, but its also pretty cool. I think it should be left in the game, but only if players actually invest in the skill.

It is true that you do not need gear for a skill that benefits so little from it. The only pieces of gear that would augment Freeze Mine would be weapons, rings, and an amulet. That's only five items. Not many. Especially when you consider a build that uses non-ES shields, two-handed weapons, or a Facebreaker based build. Most builds also do not have spell damage on their jewelry or shields.

As to passives, you do need them to permafreeze bosses and certain rares. They have so much health and such high resistances that they stay frozen for such a short amount of time that it is impossible to permafreeze them without any support.

In order to permafreeze everything, it requires Cold Penetration and Added Cold Damage and/or 25+% increased elemental, cold, or mine damage from your skill tree in order to begin permafreezing enemies.

You must also keep in mind that anything that does any AoE damage or uses Arc will prevent you from using traps and mines. The best example are the Battlemages in Battlefront that spam Arc like no tomorrow. Trappers have a lot of trouble if they don't have the notable that makes traps and mines immune to damage for five seconds.

The above poster has no idea what elemental proliferation is and how it works.

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Gravethought wrote:

The above poster has no idea what elemental proliferation is and how it works.

Elemental Proliferation, will only spread the highest ailment status to any target in range. This means the most damage will be transmitted to each target in range, which the duration is based on.

If the effect spreads from target to target, it will only be based on the maximum possible duration of each creature's life. A rare with increased life and high resistances will not be frozen as long as a regular white creature.

Most unique bosses do not have allies around them during some or most parts of the fight. This means that Elemental Proliferation does nothing.

So, why mention it, if it isn't going to be worthwhile most of the time? Cold Penetration and Added Cold Damage actually benefit you against a single target where Elemental Proliferation does, well, nothing.

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Natharias wrote:

Most unique bosses do not have allies around them during some or most parts of the fight. This means that Elemental Proliferation does nothing.

I loled. Where do you even come up with a statement like that? Do you even play this game?

Almost every single boss in a map (Aka content you want to freeze to trivialize) has trash to proliferate from. The boss will be frozen as long as the trash blue/white monster is frozen, aka indefinitely.

But lets even go out of maps. Piety summons white trash. Dominus has trash on every stage. Vaal? Summons trash. Bandit lords? Kinda come packaged with white bandits. I think Brutus and Merviel phase 1 might be the ONLY BOSSES IN THE GAME without stuff to proliferate from.

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Gravethought wrote:

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Natharias wrote:

Most unique bosses do not have allies around them during some or most parts of the fight. This means that Elemental Proliferation does nothing.

I loled. Where do you even come up with a statement like that? Do you even play this game?

Almost every single boss in a map (Aka content you want to freeze to trivialize) has trash to proliferate from. The boss will be frozen as long as the trash blue/white monster is frozen, aka indefinitely.

But lets even go out of maps. Piety summons white trash. Dominus has trash on every stage. Vaal? Summons trash. Bandit lords? Kinda come packaged with white bandits. I think Brutus and Merviel phase 1 might be the ONLY BOSSES IN THE GAME without stuff to proliferate from.

You are thick.

You might want to re-read what you quoted from my post and then read yours.