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anubite wrote:
Diamond Flasks, CI and totems are all entwined.


I say nerf all 3 hard and laugh at the rage that ensues.
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Change diamond flasks to adding flat crit
Change CI to Converts HP to ES
Change totems to require your mana to cast


0.9.13qq
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Xendran wrote:
Change diamond flasks to adding flat crit
Change CI to Converts HP to ES
Change totems to require your mana to cast


0.9.13qq


None affect me. So, sounds good.
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anubite wrote:
I suspect CI will be changing in 0.10.1, but I'm not sure really. A lot of stuff is happening in 0.10.0, so we'll need lots of beta-based feedback before Qarl is comfortable with changing it significantly, I think. Or changing it at all. The same goes with totems (which I'm not sure need changing, well, spell totem anyway, decoy totem is obviously in need of a little tweaking, as is shockwave/rejuve)

Diamond Flasks, CI and totems are all entwined. If you nerf one, you're probably nerfing the other. So, I think we will want to pick one of these things first, then adjust it accordingly in 0.10.1, then evaluate the other two and see how they fair when the third's influence on the issue has been reduced.


I fail to see how totems, a skill which allows you to take defense completely out of the equation, can be considered "entertwined" with CI, and when you have no chance of dieing, dps is also rather unrelated aswell, as the issue is that they will always die before you.

Jus'sayin.

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