Proof that Split arrow is better than Lightning arrow

Hey, i am currently leveling up a ranger cause i also want to play her when Ob starts. Can you tell me what the most important things are for this build ? Which support gems do you use ? Should i get a good elemental bow or phys bow? And which spells did u use when leveling 10-50~ ?

So how does your build look like? If you're using Split Arrow I assume, you take all physical dmg buff nodes?

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Canox wrote:

So how does your build look like? If you're using Split Arrow I assume, you take all physical dmg buff nodes?

Look at his bow, should give you a hint as to hes elemental not physical.

Build link pls :)

Will be completing build thread tonight.

Despite you having a rather low damage number and clear speed for using my old bow :D

The issue you see, specifically, is the efficiency factor, not damage. When you want to compare damage numbers between LA and Split Arrow, you must look at how they interact independantly, as to their efficiency.

Split Arrow has always been the king of elemental arrow AoEs after a certain point. It is simply the most efficient.

Now, I will admit, not many people ever get to a point to realize this. Chain simply reduces the amount of damage you need to hit said point where split arrow basically "takes over" in eDps.


LA has and always will be, for the most part, a very strong early game dps option. What most people don't realize, and when they are using it in the late game, is that once you hit a certain dps, the shotgunning type effects of LA are redundant.

LA has CC effect therefore it will always be better, it can CC the mobs far from you, and it can also stun them in place when you are getting swarmed, giving you a chance to escape.

and if we are comparing end game scenarios you are doing it wrong, show me a 69 map and in group play, where LA really shines.

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forzazx6 wrote:

LA has CC effect therefore it will always be better, it can CC the mobs far from you, and it can also stun them in place when you are getting swarmed, giving you a chance to escape.

and if we are comparing end game scenarios you are doing it wrong, show me a 69 map and in group play, where LA really shines.

not with LA getting nerfed. Split arrow will be the best skill come OB.

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Kobbors wrote:

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forzazx6 wrote:

LA has CC effect therefore it will always be better, it can CC the mobs far from you, and it can also stun them in place when you are getting swarmed, giving you a chance to escape.

and if we are comparing end game scenarios you are doing it wrong, show me a 69 map and in group play, where LA really shines.

not with LA getting nerfed. Split arrow will be the best skill come OB.

I lol'd at this.

LA is not good for the shock effect specifically, though it never hurts.

The reason LA is good, is the bounce, and the effective shotgun effect.

I really should write a more general guide on archers.

Split arrow is ALREADY the BEST skill for archers, the issue is, the reasoning for it, is quite complex.

There are actual gear tiers and damage tiers in the game. Split arrow is best when you are already one shotting things, as it has 5 arrows, opposed to the 3 of a lmp. Due to this, you can often kill much faster, on the sole bases of 5 arrows > 3 arrows.

For example, my split arrow harper, without chain, with curse (for pierce) and pierce passive, could effectively 1 shot an entire screen (29-34k damage / shot with diamond). However, if I switched to Ele hit/lmp, I did 34.5-39k damage /shot with diamond. Why would I use split over ele hit?

Simple, ele hit only had 4 arrows, split had 6.

Many people underestimate and never take into account the efficiency curve, and simply tunnel-vision more dps.

Very interesting.

I had a different take on the matter entirely then the rest of you. I thought the issue was entirely with Weapon Elemental Damage being Multiplicative.

Without that gem, Physical damage is far superior to elemental weapon damage in every aspect. If there were, say, a 30% Ranged weapon damage support gem like there is for melee, you would never even consider elemental damage, despite there being a 50% disparity. There are far, far, more nodes for bow physical damage then elemental, and given that Split has a inherent increase in physical damage, as well as other bonuses in things like Faster Projectiles, well... you get the idea.