So multi-strike

-Is required for at least 50% of all melee builds in the game (probably more)
-At least 1/3 of the players make a melee build
-Needs to be gotten early so you can level it and get rid of that 'less damage' penalty
-The only quest that gives it is from the ranger and only from one of the last quests in the game on merciless.
-Rangers would NEVER even take the gem in the first place because its also the quest that gives cast on damage taken which the ranger needs for their build (all builds use it)
-Even if the ranger already had a cast on damage taken she STILL wouldnt take the multi-strike because cast on damage is worth more to sell than multi-strike

The only way multi-strikes enter the economy is world drops.

WTF.

This seems like a terrible barrier for new players. Johny newbie rolls a shadow decides he likes one of the many dex based skills. He realizes he doesnt have the strength to use melee splash so he tries to find a multi-strike but theres none in the fucking economy. Even if he finds one he probably won't be able to buy it even if he saves every single orb he gets through all of normel mode.

Then do something else? Run cyclone or something.

It was pretty much the same in Diablo 2 btw. Unless you had gear worth like 200 high-runes, Melee wasn't viable. Whirlwind was the entry skill for melee, cyclone is here.

No one forces you to go melee. Even if you do decide to go melee like I did, it's not 8 chaos that's going to destroy your finances.

tl;dr stop whining.

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Daxtreme wrote:

tl;dr stop whining.

You can use other skills up to the time you find or can buy one.
My Marauder doesn't even use it on main, just on Infernal, uses Heavy and Splash on main.
As effective as needed in cruel right now. I could buy a new hammer to double dps but it really doesn't matter now, I'll save til merc. Oh and I've had 4 drop since release, at least one early.

Say what now?



Far too much QQ on these forums and not enough using the resources at their disposal.

Damn noobs.

edit: That armor is on a dual-claw ranger btw, and contrary to the whaarrgarbl in the first post I would take multistrike over Cast-On-Damage-Taken.

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Daxtreme wrote:

Then do something else? Run cyclone or something.

It was pretty much the same in Diablo 2 btw. Unless you had gear worth like 200 high-runes, Melee wasn't viable. Whirlwind was the entry skill for melee, cyclone is here.

No one forces you to go melee. Even if you do decide to go melee like I did, it's not 8 chaos that's going to destroy your finances.

tl;dr stop whining.

I know this isn`t exactly on topic here, but D2 had plenty of melee builds that were viable aside from WW barbs. Zeal, frenzy, and smite were all excellent skills to do builds around, just to name a few.

1. Cast when damage taken may get nerfed more so it may not be the "be all end all" of that quest reward.
2. It's not that hard to get enough currency to just trade for one. Same goes for GMP or others like it.
3. Just because it is used in most melee builds doesn't mean you can't get along without it until you have the resources to buy it. Most ranged builds use GMP but you wont be able to get that for a while either.
4. Melee builds existed before multistrike and melee splash. Just use faster attacks, melee physical, added fire, etc. and when you get multistrike switch out.

Not every good gem should be an early quest reward. It should take you a while to flesh out your build. There should be a reason to interact with other players, even if to just buy one gem. If you type "WTB _____ gem" into trade chat 8/10 times someone will answer you within a minute and offer you the gem.

i was vendoring this gem until i realized people were willing to pay 16-20 chaos a pop for one.

multistrike has huge drawbacks
less control of what you hit
less efective against monsters with armor
less shock/freeze duration
high manacostmultiplier

ofc its still a very strong gem but not mandatory at all

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ciel289 wrote:

multistrike has huge drawbacks
less control of what you hit
less efective against monsters with armor
less shock/freeze duration
high manacostmultiplier

ofc its still a very strong gem but not mandatory at all

multi strike + flicker strike = death if your not careful and desync central. but goddamn is it fun