The state of Wand slingers: Undeniable proof why wands are not viable and why GGG should fix them

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bhavv wrote:

This isn't a thread about how wanders are weak.

Its a thread about how WANDS are weak.

And its entirely valid because finding a suitable wand to make a wander build work is literally impossible unless you have many exalted orbs to spend on one.

This is 100% not true. My wand cost like 5 chaos and I do 8k dps with chain. Ele wander only needs crit chance, attack speed and hopefully a litte elemental damage. You can get a ton of damage from auras and other gear.

Spectral throw gonna be so much better now with any average weapon than Power Siphon with an overpriced wand.

I've made 3 wanders so far. The first two were EB based and destroyed by the aura nerfs.

The new one is still doing much better with spectral throw and culling support than with a wand and power siphon, simply because its by far easier to find a decent melee weapon than it is to find a decent wand.

Wander so weak. ya his gear and level and wealth are insane. But you can achieve high dps and decent survivability with much worse gear and a much lower level.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/506738

Spectral throw. Spectral throw. Spectral throw. Spectral throw.

Gonna tear up the now pathetic wand with ANY choice of melee weapon.

Wander is an obsolete beta build that has been nerfed too hard now.

And power siphon sucks vs boss fights without any trash mobs, no power charges for you.

Spectral throw is not that great. It has an incredibly small amount of good supports.

Dude, Wanders are insanly strong with little to no gear. All you need is an imbued wand with high crit chance, thats basically all. Get Wrath (later Anger as well) and some elemental damage on gear.

Use Power Siphon / WED / (GMP / LMP) / Chain / LL and a few aura buff / elemental nodes and everything will get Shock stacked in seconds and basically evaporates even with shitty DPS. For single target you can use elemental hit or power siphon + WED + ICD + (LL / FA), for mana regen and survivability, you can use EB and later on Arctic Armour.

And the best point: You dont even need to invest a lot of points for damage.

However, it is pretty shitty to level a character as a wander (still possible though), so just start out melee / ST and switch later on, when you got some power charges and crit nodes and the 5linked Armor + a chain gem.

Physical Wanders are even stronger, but they need really expensive gear to be effective, as stated before, since here you want to scale physical damage, which is hard to roll on wands. But it is the same with daggers.

Regarding Spectral Throw: It is great for leveling and playing solo, but End-Game DPS and AOE (because you cant use it with chain) is kinda shitty, when you dont scale it with crit (which again requires daggers or scepters (or other high base crit weapons), that are very hard to roll because of a huge Affix pool).

Wander destroy's spectral throw.

You people are so dumb its unbelievable.

Were discussing how hard it is to find a suitable weapon to make a wander work.

Its by far simpler, easier and cheaper to make ST work than it is to make a wander work, BECAUSE THE BASE WEAPON, WAND, IS SHIT.


How many 200+ phys damage wands have you seen drop compared to other weapons? Probably not even 1% as many.

ST without chain is still valid in the end game due to how many targets its already capable of hitting. Relying on auras for wander damage doesn't make sense as a defense, when those same auras can also apply to and work with any other skill.

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bhavv wrote:

You people are so dumb its unbelievable.

Were discussing how hard it is to find a suitable weapon to make a wander work.

Its by far simpler, easier and cheaper to make ST work than it is to make a wander work, BECAUSE THE BASE WEAPON, WAND, IS SHIT.

But this isn't true. Or rather, the moment a wander finds even a mediocre wand, not even a good one, it beats ST with an amazing weapon.

I agree with the people telling you to go for ele crit wanderer ;)

Wands have a great base crit chance and you can use ele hit as well instead of power siphon. Instead of generating charges with power siphon use Ice spear + Power charge on crit (and maybe + curse on hit + whatever curse you want).

Here is an example build: link
Use Wrath and Discipline (both buffed by 38% from the above example build)
EDIT: or this alternative: link (no double curses, but far more ES and a bit more crit chance)

EDIT2: gem setup: Power Siphon (or ele hit) + WED + LMP + Increased crit damage + Life leech