POE is the Dark Souls of ARPG's. That means it's awesome ...

People saying Dark Souls has cheap one hit mechanics just suck at games. Every move in DS can be avoided you just need good reflexes or to have a good knowledge of how the boss operates. Both games are great in their own ways but DS is considered a masterpiece where as PoE's desync will always make it a great game with shitty mechanics.
Yeah as somebody else said dark souls is an ARPG,so the equation is faulty :P
I love it,i think it is an incredibl game.However for me the king of ARPGs is the Witcher 2.On dark mode,the difficulty is comparable to dark souls(the fights might be abit harder,but overall it is a bit easier cause u can save,and u dont have to rerun areas when you die),but also has incredible storyline,characters,dialogues and choices that affect the plot very heavily.Masterpiece
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow
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Midnitecloud wrote:
People saying Dark Souls has cheap one hit mechanics just suck at games. Every move in DS can be avoided you just need good reflexes or to have a good knowledge of how the boss operates. Both games are great in their own ways but DS is considered a masterpiece where as PoE's desync will always make it a great game with shitty mechanics.


k then, how about I make a game that's basically one huge Quick-Time event, for 20 hours or so of single-player campaign, and if you miss a key press in time - it's game over?
you either have good enough reflexes and good knowledge of each QTE pattern, or you lose.

I'm exaggerating of course. Dark Souls has more than just 1-shot mechanics, and is actually not a bad game - but it's far from a "masterpiece" in my book.

you young ones tend to forget, difficulty and challenge do not necessarily mean a 1-shot game, where the life bar is a mere formality.
as a matter of fact, many people don't even consider Dark Souls a hard game - because they trained their controller-fingers to go through each part and boss with muscle-memory alone.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
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Nephalim wrote:
poe isnt too difficult unless youre talking about gear checks needed to do end game content.

dark souls is a masterpiece of an rpg and is hard to compare to something as different as poe. both are great games but for completely different reasons.
Getting back to why I think Dark Souls is shite...

It's not like I've never played a hard game before. I was the first and only one in my neighborhood who beat Castlevania 1 on the NES. I could also beat Blaster Master without the cheats and Ninja Gaiden 2 & 3.

It wasn't so bad playing those levels over and over again because I had more control. In Dark Souls and 3rd person 3D games in general, the camera is an unwelcome obstacle for me. Often I find myself getting killed because the camera chose to wheel itself around at the worst possible moment.

Dark Souls would be better if it was a 2D sidescroller ;P
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naretev wrote:
For those of you who have never played Dark Souls please check it out.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/10/03/dark-souls-review-brick-walls-and-pancakes/#review

Long story short, awesome 3d action rpg with a high difficulty level which yields great satisfaction when succesful. It is never unforgiving to the point where it's unbalanced, more so a learning experience every time you fail.

I feel the same way about POE. Currently I am running Spark, Tempest Shield, Enfeeble,and that's about it ( Trying to get Conductivity, ps I am Domination US if you want to trade lol ). I went slow in some acts, really fast in others and started doing great the further I progressed into the passive skill tree. I have died many times and was forced to portal in and out of the Dominus normal instance ( solo ) several times just to get him down. In any other ARPG or Diablo for sake of arguement, normal is an absolute cake walk no matter what build/gear. There is a great sense of achievement when you do well in this game and I for one appreciate it's difficulty.

If this is a niche game then so be it. Look at Dark Souls 2, Namco Bandai did not give in to the masses and make some kind of triple A title easy peasy Assasins Creed ( No offense to that game, just not my cup of tea ) type nonsense. They stuck to their guns and stayed true to their ideals. By doing so they have created a new mindset in casual gamers and Dark Souls 2 is looking to be the most popular game of this current console generation.

My point being is this. I sincerely hope GGG sticks to their guns aswell. Future patches/upgrades is something I am really looking forward to. I think games and gamers are evolving, so much so that games like POE/Dark Souls will be on the forefront of popularity which is a good thing.


i cant tell if this is a genuine good comparison, or a blatant advertisement
ign: hoya on hardcore
hoya is really shit at mapping
Dark Souls is a great game, easily one of the best of the current console generation.

SuperMetroid is better though.

They need to bring back Road Rash.
"the premier Action RPG for hardcore gamers."
-GGG

Happy hunting/fishing
Very with you, good to see more dark souls love. I expressed this myself but wasnt sure if it was for the gen board, so i went to OT
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/545034/page/3/#p4985692

Praise the Sun!
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Jack_Mayhoffer wrote:
That's an insult to POE in my opinion haha...

Every aspect of Dark Souls is horrible. I don't get the appeal of getting killed over and over only to repeat the exact same area a dozen more times until you figure out the boss.

Some of the boss encounters are just down right cheap and infuriatingly stupid. Like that goat demon guy with the two swords that jumps on you as soon as you enter the portal, then his two dogs chase you around the level mercilessly while you fight with the camera to get a shot at anything at all. Game sucks.


lol, that is one of the first bosses. You prob had no idea how to play and got rocked. The game is about patience and learning how to actually utilize all the combat mechanics. Just like PoE...

I agree OP, in the sense that people will QQ about the game just because they don't understand it/think it's unfair/hard. Like this guy.
ॐ "Metal Gear!?!?!?" ॐ
Onslaught: FixinToDie + Awnslot
Darksouls is not a ARPG.
And RNG gear progression =/= difficulty. The only "hard" part about a ARPG is gear progression.
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bhavv wrote:
Dark Souls doesn't even load, just crashes with an error due to GFWL being that shit

Yea, amazing game that doesn't even work.


Pebkac. It works fine.
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