i died and noticed soemthing that needs change

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Schn1tt3r wrote:
30 minutes? Woah is that bad. I don't think the fight was designed to take that long.


Some people could probably do a whole ACT in that time.
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lethal_papercut wrote:
It's about time you got a taste of your own medicine so here we go...

This is absolutely a L2P issue. It is not the games' fault & in fact what you want changed is an integral part of the game.

So you built an all out tank with zero DPS...fail, that is a bad character, even in a HC situation having no DPS makes you pretty much useless. Going all tank is just as scrubby as going all DPS glass cannon (which we all know you hate), it is 2 ends of the same scale.

So not only do you have a bad build but you also haven't taken advantage of any of the mechanics in the game that could have alleviated the situation further; Devouring Totem, Detonate Dead, Raise Zombie or Raise Spectre could have been used to get rid of the corpses but you did nothing. Instead you died...

Now I have never had a character that is so bad it takes 30mins to do kill Vaal but I have had many corpses on the screen at once as I tend to round up the mobs before blasting them down, I have very few issues with performance so what I would also suggest to you is that you stop playing the game on a potato & upgrade your rig before saying that the game needs to be changed, it is 2013 & if you are still playing on a dual core microwave you need to realise that by you are essentially living in the past & should not expect games to cater to you.

So to sum it up you had a sucky build, didn't take advantage of the games' mechanics & play on a out of date rig = all your fault. L2P.

you dont get it it was a facebreaker infernal blow everything got blown up and the bodies piled up the character was save to play

the pile up of all those exploded body killed my fps over time that not a l2p issue or character design flaw that so stupid it just a bad gamedesign

so what 30min even if it would take 2h to kill him i should have the same performance in minute 1 as in minute 30 or 90 or 120 whatever i dont need to defend my build he did everything solo so the build is ok 2.4k aoe is enough dmg for mercyless act2
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ventiman wrote:
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lethal_papercut wrote:
It's about time you got a taste of your own medicine so here we go...

This is absolutely a L2P issue. It is not the games' fault & in fact what you want changed is an integral part of the game.

So you built an all out tank with zero DPS...fail, that is a bad character, even in a HC situation having no DPS makes you pretty much useless. Going all tank is just as scrubby as going all DPS glass cannon (which we all know you hate), it is 2 ends of the same scale.

So not only do you have a bad build but you also haven't taken advantage of any of the mechanics in the game that could have alleviated the situation further; Devouring Totem, Detonate Dead, Raise Zombie or Raise Spectre could have been used to get rid of the corpses but you did nothing. Instead you died...

Now I have never had a character that is so bad it takes 30mins to do kill Vaal but I have had many corpses on the screen at once as I tend to round up the mobs before blasting them down, I have very few issues with performance so what I would also suggest to you is that you stop playing the game on a potato & upgrade your rig before saying that the game needs to be changed, it is 2013 & if you are still playing on a dual core microwave you need to realise that by you are essentially living in the past & should not expect games to cater to you.

So to sum it up you had a sucky build, didn't take advantage of the games' mechanics & play on a out of date rig = all your fault. L2P.

you dont get it it was a facebreaker infernal blow everything got blown up and the bodies piled up the character was save to play

the pile up of all those exploded body killed my fps over time that not a l2p issue or character design flaw that so stupid it just a bad gamedesign


If pretty much everyone's telling you it's a l2p issue...it's probably a l2p issue.

Your DPS is way too low to complete the fight efficiently (especially using the glass cannon method of "attacking only when absolutely safe"), and you didn't plan around that. Now you know to bring devouring totem or detonate dead or something if you're going to do that fight while so under-geared.
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i give up you dont get it

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ventiman wrote:
i give up you dont get it





It's entirely possible to "get it" and still disagree with you. Sure, there are plenty of issues with the game still. This may even be one of them. But it still wouldn't have been a problem(in this case at least) if you weren't taking such an unrealistically long time to kill the mob. When a fight that should take 5 minutes at most ends up lasting half an hour or more, it's hard to say the game is entirely at fault.
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Freeslana wrote:
original post content removed while I was typing it, essentially criticized response to OP


It's more of a "if you know it takes you much longer to kill a boss that summons adds than the boss fight is intended to take, be prepared to plan around it...or gear up better" deal. For example, when you realize you're getting a bit of an FPS drop from adds, go to town and grab a gem that can handle dead bodies (which honestly, every character benefits from having one of because of annoying monsters like necromancers).

Other than that, it is amusing that a "tank" build has to only do damage during small, safe windows rather than being able to fight the boss and just move out of the way when the tell for the bash happens.
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
Good point. GGG, please give Vaal Oversoul Detonate Dead.


god damn it charan... XD
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Wruntjunior wrote:


If pretty much everyone's telling you it's a l2p issue...it's probably a l2p issue.



I disagree.


You are discrediting his feedback about accumulating corps making laggs by the fact he has a very "slow" and not effective build.


Yes you can discuss his build but do not discredit the feedback aswell

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