How can "intriguing" be a fact to begin with? It is totally subjective
That's the point. Which story you like better, it's totally subjective.
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Oh nice excuse for a sucking story: "You have to use your imagination to fill the gaps". Right then don't release the game at all, I will play a much better one in my imagination. It will probably also be a cheesy story with sucking and filling gaps ehh
Apparently what I wrote was too much of a wall of text for you:
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Btw it's quite pointless to talk about PoE's story as long as Act 3 isn't finished. From what the open beta trailer showed, Dominus will shed some light on what's happening in Wraeclast.
Afaik the game has it's release scheduled for October, however there are enough people around that already want to play it. It's up to you to wait for the full release, maybe the story is more to your liking then.
Meanwhile it is common practice in movies, books, games to not tell every detail about the world but to leave some hints that fuel the imagination of viewers, readers, players. We are not talking about the whole plot, but about background and lore of Wraeclast. Basically every open end lets you use your imagination. Blizzard North cleverly used an open end in D2 to have room for a good story in a sequel, unfortunately all we got was "Diablo died and thus got trapped in the Black Soulstone".
Oh, and maybe you noticed from my missunderstanding that it's never wrong to be extra clear in text based communication, especially in a gaming forum where you most likely will encounter people from different nations, where English isn't necessarily their first language. Looking at your sentence again
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I said that D3 succeeded better in this compared to PoE, no doubt
I find the following interpretations possible:
(1) I have no doubt that D3 succeeded better in this compared to PoE,
(2) There is no doubt that D3 succeeded better in this compared to PoE,
(3) I have no doubt that I said that D3 succeeded better in this compared to PoE,
and after reading it only once I thought it's (2). Actually (1) would've been what I read last from that.
So maybe you should use clearer wording instead of attesting bad reading comprehension, press "preview" at least once before "submit" and read your own scribble.
tl;dr: Forget it, if you spend more time hating around in the forums than playing the game, then read the feedback you get or stop posting.
All he has in his defense is 'the expansion will make it darker', 'the expansion will improve the loot', 'the expansion will improve the story' ... will will will, yada yada yada. Wait until Reaper of VISAs with all its shiny promises comes around for round 2 of Epic Gaming Scam of the Century.
All he has in his defense is 'the expansion will make it darker', 'the expansion will improve the loot', 'the expansion will improve the story' ... will will will, yada yada yada. Wait until Reaper of VISAs with all its shiny promises comes around for round 2 of Epic Gaming Scam of the Century.
You can address me directly, I am right here. Image yourself in a group of people and somebody talking about you as you are not there, a rather strange attitude.
You seemed to have missed my post with like 10 point that explain why I think I am going to prefer the new D3 expansion over PoE.
Now I think it was you who started hammering on the story and the discussion drifted away into story details etc.
Also it is unclear to me what you are referring to with defending? Defending myself for what post? What are you talking about?
Somebody said that he thinks D3 is to bright and I responded that the new expansion will be darker indeed. And the fact that the expansion will bring more story to D3 was not a point of defense since I think the story is ALREADY better in D3. I said that because somebody mentioned the story in PoE will grow, well it also will in PoE.
Again I will quote myself for you hoping you can read and understand that it is not a matter of will will will but also is is is. What is even more funny is you telling me I have nothing to "defend" myself while I have only seen 1 person who responded to the post below. All the rest was mainly people discussing the point about the story and in general telling me that they think the D3 story sucks.
Well I still think the D3 story is better because it is presented better, involves the player more and is a lot more understandable.
The best excuse I have seen yet is that PoE is not finished yet, that's true but that does not make the PoE story better. And again: A story is about more than only the plot.
Enjoy and have a nice day!
BTW: It is mainly you who is feeding this thread, probably out of hate towards me (see first paragraph)
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Startkabels wrote:
I installed Diablo 3 again yesterday and what a relief it was:
-Diablo 3 looks a lot better
-Action is a lot more smooth (no framedrops) and feel more impactful
-No desync
-A melee character feels strong and vital as it should
-The story, the lore and voice acting are a lot better
-Monsters, bosses and the environment are more creative and interesting
-The map is not a confusing blur like in PoE
-No need for fuzzy micromanagement with hundreds of overwhelming and unnecessary minor and boring passives (6% of this 2% of that) but choosing 3 dramatic passive skills
-Itemization in PoE is better atm because of colour allocated item stats, but this will actually be addressed in the new D3 expansion. And also I expect D3 to take the overhand because they will also introduce loot 2.0 which means less but better drops too which will make playing the game more rewarding and which reduces the need to buy items, something that PoE needs badly
-Skills in PoE seem better because of more customization but in my experience this is only partly true . It is just more fuzzy micromanagement with getting the right socket colours and links: Faster attacks/Increased physicial damage/Increased weapon elemental damage: It is just more DPS. Also some support gems are a lot better then others making a lot of support gems unneeded. In D3 there are just a couple of very effective runes per skill. However the fact that you can switch to a different skill and rune at any time does make your character less unique.
-Items you find but don't need are not as useless as in PoE, you can salvage them for crafting resources or sell them for gold
-Crafting makes more sense because it's not as expensive and unrewarding as in PoE and it is more interesting because of recipes and leveling
-End game in PoE are random maps, In D3 you can raise your base stats with paragon points (max 100) after level cap. In the new expansion they will introduce lootruns which are similar the maps. So also here I expect D3 to take the overhand.
All in all for me the cons shrink to insignificance compared to the pros and D3 is a lot more fun and less boring to play
Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Sep 3, 2013, 5:56:07 AM
Yep, "I" fail because the country I've resided in my whole life unfortunately exists gigantic distances away from the servers and I am unable to resolve that problem without placing my self in extreme debt or a country where everyone has a gun.
I was not referring to you but to Mvm199 :)
Oh, okay then. Also I can't see them making the game experience darker with their current graphical style. The gore and stuff seems comparable quality to dismemberment in a fan made HD remake of an old FPS game like Quake/Blood/Doom except the gore looks plasticy which is kinda typical for fan made stuff.
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Last edited by Nicholas_Steel#0509 on Sep 3, 2013, 7:14:40 AM
Desync is built into d3. You cant manually attacks for crying out loud. Enemy starts attack, you vault half a screen away, enemy swings, you get hit.
Yeah, great design.
And it what way it's different than PoE? I walk up to a door open it start shooting split arrow and 2 sec after i'm inside that room surrounded by enemies hitting me from all sides.
Desync is built into d3. You cant manually attacks for crying out loud. Enemy starts attack, you vault half a screen away, enemy swings, you get hit.
Yeah, great design.
How is this any different from PoE?
The easiest example is those rolling rock things. If you are in range, and it starts rolling...You get hit, it doesn't matter if I quicksilver away, dodge it, nothing. I get hit.
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Desync is built into d3. You cant manually attacks for crying out loud. Enemy starts attack, you vault half a screen away, enemy swings, you get hit.
Yeah, great design.
And it what way it's different than PoE? I walk up to a door open it start shooting split arrow and 2 sec after i'm inside that room surrounded by enemies hitting me from all sides.
the d3 team has intentionally designed a system where you get hit by hits that didnt actually hit you, to make the game more gear checky and less about skill and reflexes
Desync is built into d3. You cant manually attacks for crying out loud. Enemy starts attack, you vault half a screen away, enemy swings, you get hit.
Yeah, great design.
And it what way it's different than PoE? I walk up to a door open it start shooting split arrow and 2 sec after i'm inside that room surrounded by enemies hitting me from all sides.
the d3 team has intentionally designed a system where you get hit by hits that didnt actually hit you, to make the game more gear checky and less about skill and reflexes
O look at me, I'm so skilled I RMB my chance orb then LMB my glorious plate and I got Kaoms Heart, if you can't do that you're noob.
Give me a break, it's not a hard game that requires skill and it's as much gear check as D3 (well for summoner and spork it isn't)
-Diablo 3 looks a lot better
-Action is a lot more smooth (no framedrops) and feel more impactful
-No desync
-A melee character feels strong and vital as it should
-The story, the lore and voice acting are a lot better
-Monsters, bosses and the environment are more creative and interesting
-The map is not a confusing blur like in PoE
-No need for fuzzy micromanagement with hundreds of overwhelming and unnecessary minor and boring passives (6% of this 2% of that) but choosing 3 dramatic passive skills
-Itemization in PoE is better atm because of colour allocated item stats, but this will actually be addressed in the new D3 expansion. And also I expect D3 to take the overhand because they will also introduce loot 2.0 which means less but better drops too which will make playing the game more rewarding and which reduces the need to buy items, something that PoE needs badly
-Skills in PoE seem better because of more customization but in my experience this is only partly true . It is just more fuzzy micromanagement with getting the right socket colours and links: Faster attacks/Increased physicial damage/Increased weapon elemental damage: It is just more DPS. Also some support gems are a lot better then others making a lot of support gems unneeded. In D3 there are just a couple of very effective runes per skill. However the fact that you can switch to a different skill and rune at any time does make your character less unique.
-Items you find but don't need are not as useless as in PoE, you can salvage them for crafting resources or sell them for gold
-Crafting makes more sense because it's not as expensive and unrewarding as in PoE and it is more interesting because of recipes and leveling
-End game in PoE are random maps, In D3 you can raise your base stats with paragon points (max 100) after level cap. In the new expansion they will introduce lootruns which are similar the maps. So also here I expect D3 to take the overhand.
Is there any reason you can't go enjoy the game you prefer instead of arguing with people in another game as to which is better?
I'm not going to argue with someone elses personal preference, because its all subjective. Play what you like. For me, PoE is better in nearly every single way and won't ever come close to disappointing me the way D3 did. Go play what you like.
