Official Blender Post! Lets theory craft for 1.2! 123k Cleave DPS!

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xenochaos1 wrote:

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h4rdcore wrote:

Self found player only, but this is where I get my leach life. The half instant leach is nice to have as well even if my dps is gimped. Those are just the best I have found.

Is it worth getting bloodseeker or is it better to get vaal pack? If i go vaal pack could some one send me a passive tree with the vaal pack inside?

ecause vaal pact is only 3 passive away from current build and it seems so much mirensafe with vaal pact why does nobody gets it?

Well vaal pact makes you have no life regen. This means you lose out on about 200-300 hp / second. It also makes it very dangerous to use blood rage. You basically just need to drop any regen points that you can since they are useless, but there are a few you will probably still have to get. Personally I just feel that it ends up wasting points that would be better used elsewhere. You can also just use life on hit to get instant healing between your leach healing as well. Bloodseeker is pretty low on dps for most people, but if its not a huge loss of dps then it is a nice middle ground to vaal pact and takes care of all your life leach needs really.

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xenochaos1 wrote:

ecause vaal pact is only 3 passive away from current build and it seems so much mirensafe with vaal pact why does nobody gets it?

with good DPS and high health you leech enough to be at full health most of the time. Vaal Pack might be good until you improve your gear to a point. Also flasks come in handy when you can't leech life (stunned etc) and with Call Packt you might as well remove all health flasks from your belt

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forgot about life regen which helps when you get low on health, run away from boss/pack and wait for your health to go back to full. With Vaal Pact you have to hit something to recover life (or port to town :P ).... so its in dead big trade off.

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Golfik wrote:

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Dante_A1ighieri wrote:

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Dante_A1ighieri wrote:

Guys, what do u think about carnage heart amulet in this build?

I will try right now that.

WOW its insane! I have lost only 450hp wearing this, and got +20 allres and 11% leech with my gear. If i calculated well, iam leeching 1500hp in 1 sec. So iam, tested it on maps(66-69),potion are in need only when iam stunned or with the boss like in orchyards(or smth like that)

If I remember right you can only leech 20% of your max health per second. so you would need to have 7.5k health to leech 1500 a second. If you will use 20% quality Life Leech gem you can then leech up to 40% of your total health per second but no one wants to waste a socket for life leech.


Lets say we have 4k health. This allows us to leech back 800 health per second. with 10% life leech from gear you need 8k dps (pure physical) to reach your cap. If you have less DPS you need more Life Leech on gear to hit cap. If you have more DPS you need less LL on gear to reach that cap.

Best thing is to increase your DPS and Health while keeping decent life leech on gear (which i lack :( ).

Hmm, wait a moment and look at my calculation and tell me pls where iam wrong.
Dual strike
3202 HP
7 Attacks per second
11% leech from phys dmg

514-1014 1hand (514+1014)/2=764
934-1609 2hand (934+1609)/2=1271

Total phys dmg per attack = 2035
Life leech=2035*0.11= 224
Life leech per 1 second= 224*7= 1568 hp in 1 sec with Vaal pact


aaaah damn, only 20% can be leeched per second, nvm then....



Ok Vaal Pact rly sucks

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Dante_A1ighieri wrote:

aaaah damn, only 20% can be leeched per second, nvm then....

Ok Vaal Pact rly sucks

20% of your total health (not life leeched).
So you can leech 3202/5=640 health each second.

I am not sure but using Vaal Pack will allow you to get all of your leeched life back (so whole 1500+ per second) but you will get no life regen or health flask effects. If you think about it, as long as you will not get hit by a monster(s) for more then 50% of your health each second then you should be topped to full at all times.

I think with Vaal Packt it would be very important to engage by Leap Slam / Whirling Blades so you can start hitting mobs before they land on you (caster/archers) so you can Leech while getting hit. I might try that for Dominus fight as this should make killing him much easier then it is at the moment :P

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diggeDinga wrote:

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RushingService wrote:

one is left at lvl 1 which i have double linked lvl 5 enduring crys (always full charges) and a lvl 5 curse (enfeeble or vulnerability)

Enduring Cry has a global cooldown!
u can test this if u have one end. cry on Cwdt and one end. cry which u cast manually.
If the Cwdt-end.cry goes off, your other end. cry goes on CD! -> wastet gem slot

indeed, good catch... didnt think that would matter in cwdt gem but apparently it does lol...

increased duration it is i guess lol.

Wtf at vaal pact in this build?? Worst idea ever.

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RushingService wrote:

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diggeDinga wrote:

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RushingService wrote:

one is left at lvl 1 which i have double linked lvl 5 enduring crys (always full charges) and a lvl 5 curse (enfeeble or vulnerability)

Enduring Cry has a global cooldown!
u can test this if u have one end. cry on Cwdt and one end. cry which u cast manually.
If the Cwdt-end.cry goes off, your other end. cry goes on CD! -> wastet gem slot

indeed, good catch... didnt think that would matter in cwdt gem but apparently it does lol...

increased duration it is i guess lol.

Increase duration dont work for charges

gross lol... well i guess its color changing and inc aoe >.<

any thoughts on this?

once people unlock white sockets and make it +6 range haha... could be great...

i figure i will drop like 5k dps... but should hold firm at 10k+ for the extra range.

You think that one of the new recipes will be to make white sockets? or will it just be added as a chance to roll white sockets when using chromes?

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h4rdcore wrote:

You think that one of the new recipes will be to make white sockets? or will it just be added as a chance to roll white sockets when using chromes?

personally im not sure, but if there is a recipe i would hope/assume its locked to this item...

could you imagine everyone running around with full gear sets with full white sockets, no more need for chromes haha.