Harder the Diablo 2/3

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elwindakos wrote:

Classic D2 got patched cause it was that bad.

Expansion packs were the standard business model for almost every game in those times. Classic D2 is a completely different experience to LoD and it's great in its own right.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

If by "classic" you mean what first came out, then sure. Because the higher level equipment wasn't available yet. The blue lance was the best item you could hope to find for the first few months.

I'd like to see you solo clear chaos sanctuary in D2 classic with the best gear possible..

You'll have to define what you mean by "classic". The game when it first came out was barely playable.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

You'll have to define what you mean by "classic". The game when it first came out was barely playable.

Classic means non-expansion.

I agree it is a difficult game. But as u learn it it gets much eayser like all ARPG games.The knoledge u have of the game , it's mechanics , mosters , and items can change how hard the game is to phisicaly play by alot.

PoE is definitely harder at the start. Most ARPG start mch easier and ramp up the diffilculty gradually. Probably this was by design to not scare off new gamers. PoE though, is (comparatively) hard right from the start. The only game I remember that was like this at all was maybe D1.

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osmancik wrote:

maybe from the start. but in general I can say that vanilla d3 was the hardest arpg I ever played. Especially when there was no op items in the hardcore server. taking that butcher down with poor dps just after the enrage kicked in was epic. and also don't forget the DC timer, that 10 seconds was never enough to escape from the soul rippers :(

When I was playing D3 at that point the difficulty felt really artificial. But you're right, even playing softcock fighting the butcher made my heart race, there was no escape, you either kill him or he kills you and it's going to happen in the next 3 minutes.

I think playing a melee character in PoE is hard, very hard...

I understand a lot more now why in D3 the Monk/Barb got 30% reduced damage from the start...

PoE needs similar help to melee in the skill tree, especially with the dsync/lag that occurs when fighting large mobs...

Twice now I have had HC melee, who I thought had escaped dieing on low health, ie...broke off combat, to appear in the middle of the mob a few secs later with the res icon.

Game is definitely harder in terms of the knowledge that you need to succeed. D3 was boringly simple, nothing really to learn.