Crafting orbs or currency? A serious discussion of the game's direction

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dima_dunedin wrote:

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FarmerTed wrote:

For standard league, gear should should be deleted upon death.

Lets rise taxes from 25% to 52%. Vote for Obama

This is not how you gain popularity

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FarmerTed wrote:

Not interested in popularity.

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cypherrage wrote:

It would be pretty cool if they just had a new Test League where they could try this idea out.

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demivion wrote:

if you make crafting viable, multiply that times 15000+++++ players, that's how many uber items will appear on the market within 1 week after the change.


It is a slippery slope because the interactions between players have a compound effect on the economy

step 1) drop rates increase - orb's value decreases
step 2) people craft uber items with their stash pages full of currencies - all items except uber become worthless
step 3) economy crashes as items and orbs flood the economy


just remember what happened in the begining of D3, the AH was so successfull that people gold-botted their way to 100's of millions of gold then blew it all on gear. they bought the best items, flooding the economy with gold. after that only the uberest of items sold on the AH because normal folks couldn't afford the prices and sellers couldn't drop their prices because rich botters could afford to spend the money, but no one was buying the lesser gear (that the normal folks were selling) so the economy ground to a halt.

every game faces inflation, standard league is a good example of that, but it's at least somewhat stable. if GGG increased the orb drop rate they would simultaniously need to make good items harder to get (more RNG in crafting) in order for the player base to consume those extra orb fast enough not to flood the economy with perfect rolled items.

if you want to make any change you have to imagine not only the effect benefiting you, but also 15000++++ other players who are also trying to make a buck.

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Hovergame wrote:

With my level 80, I can farm something like 10 fusings/hour

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Aegon wrote:

I could be mis-reading the OP's point... but an hours worth of farming is going to net you the same value in terms of trading if they increase the orb drop rate by 10 times or decrease it to a tenth of what it is now...

Its a matter of if a mediocre upgrade costs 2 chaos now in trade with an increase in orb drops it could cost 20 later in which case the OP might not feel as bad actually using his chaos orbs instead of trading them.

Using currency to create something better than you could purchase with it will never be a guarantee no matter what happens to prices, but if drop rates were increased, orb prices for items would get closer to their actual cost to craft, which would make actually using your orbs feel like you were burning $5 bills instead of $100s.

Personally, I dont care how hard the middle of the game is for my characters, I'd spend all my currency on end game regardless because a chaos can reroll a 70+ rare just as easily as a ilvl 20 one... that to me is the discrepancy. If that holds I'll only ever spend currency on end game items, or the extremely rare mid game ilvls to twink a pvp char.