Now HC-Friendly - Claws of Chaos Build - Uses CI / Ghost Reaver / Vaal Pact / Iron Reflexes

NOTE: More things are undergoing minor tweaks. More information will be added soon.

It was recommended to use Unwavering Stance for HC, but I later realized it counteracts all Evasion and makes Iron Reflexes useless! To save points I did away with Unwavering Stance and took someone's suggestion to instead use an 'Eye of Chayula Amulet' (to be immune to stuns) with this build.

Overview:

This build aims to be a Damage Dealer, Life Leecher (applied to my ES instead of Life,) a bit of a Tanker and relies on Evasion by using Iron Reflexes, which converts Evasion into actual Armor.

I'm not into regular Armor. It's one or the other for me.

If any armor piece with this setup, only one major armor-based piece would be used. The others would be ES-based and Evasion-based.

Alright, so this is my insane updated Chaos Claw Build (now with 12 points left to spend)

Passive skill tree build

I chose to use Claws because of 'Ghost Reaver' and the fact that Claws have more Life Leech than Daggers do. Ghost Reaver supports my Life Leech in that it's applied to my Energy Shield, not Life.

Vaal Pact is then used to apply this Life Leech instantly.

Without Gear This Build Packs:

192 Intelligence = 38% to Energy Shield
332 Dexterity = 60% to Evasion
74 Strength = 14% to Melee Damage
Calculated Energy Shield (+Intelligence) = 168% Increase
Calculated ES Cooldown Recovery = 105% Increase
Calculated Evasion (+Dexterity) = 216% Increase
Calculated Claws Damage (+Strength) = 190% Increase
Calculated Critical Chance /w Claws = 415% Increase
Calculated Critical Multiplier = 130% Increase

Gear Links In Mind:

After leveling the Gems of your choice below, replace one of the follow Chest Gems of your choice with: Viper Strike or Flicker Strike

Chest Piece: Reduced Mana / Faster Attacks / Power Charge on Critical /
Physical Damage on Full Life / Increased Critical Damage / Mana Leech

Claw 1: Blood Rage / Whirling Blades (for escape) / Warlord's Mark

Claw 2: Blood Rage / Vulnerability / Vitality

Gloves: Cyclone / Melee Damage on Full Life /
Melee Physical Damage / Multi-Strike

Head: Melee Damage on Full Life / Double Strike / Melee Physical Damage /
Faster Attacks

Boots: Reduced Mana / Discipline / Clarity / Haste

NOTE: Yes, Reduced Mana works with Discipline and Clarity.



Your thoughts are welcome.
HeavyMetalGear

First, you don't have enough ES, especialy because you will dual wield claws, you have no shield and shield can gives a ton of ES.

Second, Zealot's oath is totally useless in your build, you have 0 regen and don't even use vitality, you literally spend 10~ points for nothing

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Chest Piece: Reduced Mana / Faster Attacks / Power Charge on Critical /
Physical Damage on Full Life / Increased Critical Damage / Mana Leech

What's your main skill ? I have to agree that a 6L support gems is kind of unique.

You don't take the life leech with claw cluster ?

Don't plan a 120 points build, it's nearly unachievable, here's what i would do (109 points) :

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABbUMjQ1JDkgOrQ-rD8QQexEvEVARlhR1FdcV_Ra_HNweGiepKCoppSsKLKYsvy0fMFQwfDZCN2Y3gzrtO3w74T1lQFVHBkyzUDBRR1ZjWqZfKl9qY0NnHmp-bRlvV3BSdEF3135Zfyt_xoauh9uLeo2_j_qSgJMnmVeZmpp4naOio6Z_puunK6c0qBqtHq7PsbO0xbVItve4yrvWvjrAUcEAwcXB88Lsw23N6tYH14bbGtte2-fcx91I4vfjhOq66xTrY-uO6-TsGO1B7XbvoPLh8-r1S_yr_5M=

note : take the 30 int nods before all 6% increase ES nods, 30 int gives 6% ES and 15 mana.

Drop eagle talons and take the 4 claw nodes on the far right (spirit raker, etc...). Aim your build to around 100 points, 120 is just unrealistic. Also, I suggest taking vaal pact. And you need much more ES, as you are melee and gonna be in the middle of all the mobs. You need at least 200%.
Also, you don't have a main damage skill. While double strike/faster attacks/life leech/melee physical damage is good for single target, you still need an AoE. You have a few options: you could go for dual strike/melee splash, or cyclone. Use the life leech gem and Blood Rage to sustain your ES.

If you're interested in using cyclone, I have recently made a build for a CI/vaal pact/ghost reaver/iron reflexes dual claw witch. I think a witch is a little better for this build, but you can adapt it very easily to shadow if you wish to do so. Maybe you can get some inspiration from my build:


http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAVysHY-aBwFRzUxFQu9Y74eL3pyttGcHzoqN_xhGWDkinNMHFLL-GrhXX14ZWY-wYw23jhIhrNj2lywzyBbW0xSsKwQDbGhB79Uu-Orb3mZrrYxEvjb_rFFFHMHw-z73mfyt313RBFHUOrSmlOu3C7EcGX2rb55p4rR7dSBzckyc3Ziympus3g-q6tAxGcZUggsdBh3q4rpMqOCj66-64kwx9EH_GnoRIPI4Bb1fJNAoqukBVb1cMjQ1JnyfndA-rPWWSgG1stUido_yr

Note that I don't go to the templar side, only to pick up inner force (which works on your blood rage aswell). All the nodes you need are on the right side. I picked up Iron Refelexes for the extra defences you will need as melee. Also the frenzy charges are important... You can get charges through blood rage, and I have +2 max frenzy charges in the tree.
The optimal gems for the chest are: cyclone/life leech/melee physical damage/melee damage on full life/faster attacks/increased AoE or Blind or mana leech. You will do insane amounts of damage while still being able to keep your ES high.

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Problematique wrote:

Drop eagle talons and take the 4 claw nodes on the far right (spirit raker, etc...). Aim your build to around 100 points, 120 is just unrealistic. Also, I suggest taking vaal pact. And you need much more ES, as you are melee and gonna be in the middle of all the mobs. You need at least 200%.
Also, you don't have a main damage skill. While double strike/faster attacks/life leech/melee physical damage is good for single target, you still need an AoE. You have a few options: you could go for dual strike/melee splash, or cyclone. Use the life leech gem and Blood Rage to sustain your ES.

If you're interested in using cyclone, I have recently made a build for a CI/vaal pact/ghost reaver/iron reflexes dual claw witch. I think a witch is a little better for this build, but you can adapt it very easily to shadow if you wish to do so. Maybe you can get some inspiration from my build:


http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAVysHY-aBwFRzUxFQu9Y74eL3pyttGcHzoqN_xhGWDkinNMHFLL-GrhXX14ZWY-wYw23jhIhrNj2lywzyBbW0xSsKwQDbGhB79Uu-Orb3mZrrYxEvjb_rFFFHMHw-z73mfyt313RBFHUOrSmlOu3C7EcGX2rb55p4rR7dSBzckyc3Ziympus3g-q6tAxGcZUggsdBh3q4rpMqOCj66-64kwx9EH_GnoRIPI4Bb1fJNAoqukBVb1cMjQ1JnyfndA-rPWWSgG1stUido_yr

Note that I don't go to the templar side, only to pick up inner force (which works on your blood rage aswell). All the nodes you need are on the right side. I picked up Iron Refelexes for the extra defences you will need as melee. Also the frenzy charges are important... You can get charges through blood rage, and I have +2 max frenzy charges in the tree.
The optimal gems for the chest are: cyclone/life leech/melee physical damage/melee damage on full life/faster attacks/increased AoE or Blind or mana leech. You will do insane amounts of damage while still being able to keep your ES high.

You can't make a melee CI build work without Chayula or Unwavering Stance since you'll be perma stunned (even when you are immune to stun in Cyclone you'll still be in danger outside of it). Ofcourse, if you play standard or hardcore then you can drop the way to Unwavering stance and just get Iron Reflexes and use Chayula but if you want to make this viable on Anarchy/Onslaught then you need to get Unwavering Stance.
It's not worth it to take Inner force since the nerf unless you are already near it and even then it's debatable.

Now, this is what I would go for on Standard/Anarchy, you can drop some DPS for some armor nodes to increase your survivability even more. Always have you endurance charges up and get the endurance charge from oak in merciless to be even tankier. This will make a fairly tanky build with 5 endurance charges and very good leech with claws.
Frenzy charges are IMO only worth to get if you are using the skill Frenzy itself or going through them to get other stuff (5% attack speed per charge is really not much).
Use Grace + Determination + Discipline for survivability and Hatred if you have enough mana for some added dps. Other than that use Cyclone for aoe and Dual Strike for single target or just use a Dual Strike + Melee Splash to cover both scenarios. You'll probably have to use the Additional Accuracy support gem to not have an extremely high miss chance.

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Papyrazzi wrote:

First, you don't have enough ES, especialy because you will dual wield claws, you have no shield and shield can gives a ton of ES.

Second, Zealot's oath is totally useless in your build, you have 0 regen and don't even use vitality, you literally spend 10~ points for nothing

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Chest Piece: Reduced Mana / Faster Attacks / Power Charge on Critical /
Physical Damage on Full Life / Increased Critical Damage / Mana Leech

What's your main skill ? I have to agree that a 6L support gems is kind of unique.

You don't take the life leech with claw cluster ?

Don't plan a 120 points build, it's nearly unachievable, here's what i would do (109 points) :

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABbUMjQ1JDkgOrQ-rD8QQexEvEVARlhR1FdcV_Ra_HNweGiepKCoppSsKLKYsvy0fMFQwfDZCN2Y3gzrtO3w74T1lQFVHBkyzUDBRR1ZjWqZfKl9qY0NnHmp-bRlvV3BSdEF3135Zfyt_xoauh9uLeo2_j_qSgJMnmVeZmpp4naOio6Z_puunK6c0qBqtHq7PsbO0xbVItve4yrvWvjrAUcEAwcXB88Lsw23N6tYH14bbGtte2-fcx91I4vfjhOq66xTrY-uO6-TsGO1B7XbvoPLh8-r1S_yr_5M=

note : take the 30 int nods before all 6% increase ES nods, 30 int gives 6% ES and 15 mana

Did you not read this is my build's stats WITHOUT gear? I've yet to get armor with ES on it. My character still needs to be geared. Discipline also helps with my ES.

My main skill depends on who/what I am fighting via bosses or certain enemies. I tend to switch out skills often that are higher priority vs others.

And a Claws build wouldn't be a claws build if I had a shield (to me anyway.)

And I would have regeneration if I had gear on, lol. This is just the barebones of the build.

Your variant of the build looks good, and I will also take your suggestion that I make my build a 100 point build instead of a 120 point build. This makes sense.

I was kind of thinking of doing this anyway.

P.S. Consult where it says UPDATE in my Thread at the top for further elaboration.

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Problematique wrote:

Drop eagle talons and take the 4 claw nodes on the far right (spirit raker, etc...). Aim your build to around 100 points, 120 is just unrealistic. Also, I suggest taking vaal pact. And you need much more ES, as you are melee and gonna be in the middle of all the mobs. You need at least 200%.
Also, you don't have a main damage skill. While double strike/faster attacks/life leech/melee physical damage is good for single target, you still need an AoE. You have a few options: you could go for dual strike/melee splash, or cyclone. Use the life leech gem and Blood Rage to sustain your ES.

If you're interested in using cyclone, I have recently made a build for a CI/vaal pact/ghost reaver/iron reflexes dual claw witch. I think a witch is a little better for this build, but you can adapt it very easily to shadow if you wish to do so. Maybe you can get some inspiration from my build:


http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAVysHY-aBwFRzUxFQu9Y74eL3pyttGcHzoqN_xhGWDkinNMHFLL-GrhXX14ZWY-wYw23jhIhrNj2lywzyBbW0xSsKwQDbGhB79Uu-Orb3mZrrYxEvjb_rFFFHMHw-z73mfyt313RBFHUOrSmlOu3C7EcGX2rb55p4rR7dSBzckyc3Ziympus3g-q6tAxGcZUggsdBh3q4rpMqOCj66-64kwx9EH_GnoRIPI4Bb1fJNAoqukBVb1cMjQ1JnyfndA-rPWWSgG1stUido_yr

Note that I don't go to the templar side, only to pick up inner force (which works on your blood rage aswell). All the nodes you need are on the right side. I picked up Iron Refelexes for the extra defences you will need as melee. Also the frenzy charges are important... You can get charges through blood rage, and I have +2 max frenzy charges in the tree.
The optimal gems for the chest are: cyclone/life leech/melee physical damage/melee damage on full life/faster attacks/increased AoE or Blind or mana leech. You will do insane amounts of damage while still being able to keep your ES high.

Your base ES is really not much more than mine, I mean, I don't know, I'm not into vaal pact when both Ghost Reaver and Zealot's Oath both apply to my ES and NOT Life when it comes to Life Leech or Life Regen. That's how both those nodes work.

Since I am using CI, Vaal Pact is useless as it applies to life only. The way I have it set up is the life leech in my build and life regen (given by gears) goes to my ES, not life . . .

Right now I don't have the gear I need, but when I get it, I am sure my build will be more effective.

The only thing I can see where I can improve really is making this a 100 point build and not a 120 point build.

Also, I don't like the fact that in your link you're suggesting I use armor over evasion, which in using Iron Reflexes in my build gets converted to armor anyway.

I think you as well as the other people here skimmed through my thread and didn't exactly read everything, assuming I am fully geared instead of acknowledging all my values I have set are the barebones to my setup. Gear has yet to be worked on.

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HeavyMetalGear wrote:

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Problematique wrote:

Drop eagle talons and take the 4 claw nodes on the far right (spirit raker, etc...). Aim your build to around 100 points, 120 is just unrealistic. Also, I suggest taking vaal pact. And you need much more ES, as you are melee and gonna be in the middle of all the mobs. You need at least 200%.
Also, you don't have a main damage skill. While double strike/faster attacks/life leech/melee physical damage is good for single target, you still need an AoE. You have a few options: you could go for dual strike/melee splash, or cyclone. Use the life leech gem and Blood Rage to sustain your ES.

If you're interested in using cyclone, I have recently made a build for a CI/vaal pact/ghost reaver/iron reflexes dual claw witch. I think a witch is a little better for this build, but you can adapt it very easily to shadow if you wish to do so. Maybe you can get some inspiration from my build:


http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAVysHY-aBwFRzUxFQu9Y74eL3pyttGcHzoqN_xhGWDkinNMHFLL-GrhXX14ZWY-wYw23jhIhrNj2lywzyBbW0xSsKwQDbGhB79Uu-Orb3mZrrYxEvjb_rFFFHMHw-z73mfyt313RBFHUOrSmlOu3C7EcGX2rb55p4rR7dSBzckyc3Ziympus3g-q6tAxGcZUggsdBh3q4rpMqOCj66-64kwx9EH_GnoRIPI4Bb1fJNAoqukBVb1cMjQ1JnyfndA-rPWWSgG1stUido_yr

Note that I don't go to the templar side, only to pick up inner force (which works on your blood rage aswell). All the nodes you need are on the right side. I picked up Iron Refelexes for the extra defences you will need as melee. Also the frenzy charges are important... You can get charges through blood rage, and I have +2 max frenzy charges in the tree.
The optimal gems for the chest are: cyclone/life leech/melee physical damage/melee damage on full life/faster attacks/increased AoE or Blind or mana leech. You will do insane amounts of damage while still being able to keep your ES high.

Your base ES is really not much more than mine, I mean, I don't know, I'm not into vaal pact when both Ghost Reaver and Zealot's Oath both apply to my ES and NOT Life when it comes to Life Leech or Life Regen. That's how both those nodes work.

Since I am using CI, Vaal Pact is useless as it applies to life only. The way I have it set up is the life leech in my build and life regen (given by gears) goes to my ES, not life . . .

Right now I don't have the gear I need, but when I get it, I am sure my build will be more effective.

The only thing I can see where I can improve really is making this a 100 point build and not a 120 point build.

Also, I don't like the fact that in your link you're suggesting I use armor over evasion, which in using Iron Reflexes in my build gets converted to armor anyway.

I think you as well as the other people here skimmed through my thread and didn't exactly read everything, assuming I am fully geared instead of acknowledging all my values I have set are the barebones to my setup. Gear has yet to be worked on.

vaal pact doesnt apply to life only

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FattyMcFatpants wrote:

vaal pact doesnt apply to life only

Quote, "Life Leech applies instantly. Life Recovery from Flasks and Regeneration has no effect." End of quote.

Alright, so Vaal Pact doesn't just apply to Life, so long as Ghost Reaver is in effect. You're right, however, I really don't want to sacrifice Zealot's Oath which applies regeneration to my ES, in which a Flask too can help with this regeneration. Vaal Pact has a penalty where Flasks have no effect.

Is there anything else in what I said before this reply you'd like to refute?

Or perhaps not in that I reminded everyone the stats in my Thread are what they are without gear on, which I think is quite reasonable.



Thank You for reviewing my build.

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HeavyMetalGear wrote:

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FattyMcFatpants wrote:

vaal pact doesnt apply to life only

Quote, "Life Leech applies instantly. Life Recovery from Flasks and Regeneration has no effect." End of quote.

Alright, so Vaal Pact doesn't just apply to Life, so long as Ghost Reaver is in effect. You're right, however, I really don't want to sacrifice Zealot's Oath which applies regeneration to my ES, in which a Flask too can help with this regeneration. Vaal Pact has a penalty where Flasks have no effect.

Is there anything else in what I said before this reply you'd like to refute?

Or perhaps not in that I reminded everyone the stats in my Thread are what they are without gear on, which I think is quite reasonable.



Thank You for reviewing my build.

yes i have something else to refute, zealots oath doesnt work with flasks bro

the smugness that eminates from your posts in this thread is sickening

The biggest problems I see are...
1) Like previously mentioned your ES is low, you need around 180%+ min. I am level 66 CI duel claw and I have 3200ish ES with Discipline and I only have 5 ES nodes left on my build which is right at 200% total for the build.
2) No Vaal Pact... Which means even with 30% LL you won't regenerate ES fast enough to sustain incoming damage. If you don't want to take Vaal Pact you are probably better off going pure life. (Tried it)
3) Even with regen on all your gear you will not hit a high enough value to even be noticeable.
4)You pick some dmg nodes which would be better in other places. My 105 point build (lvl 86ish) has a total of 254% Dmg increase, 385% Crit chance.
5)You may not be meaning to but you are coming off extremely arrogant which is odd considering you obviously posted it here for critique...
If you would like any help in game (minus the attitude) putting a build together with your on spin on it I could help. IGN: GearOfWarrr/GearOfWarEK