After Patch - Goodbye My Blood Magic, Duel Wielding, Flicker Strike Shadow

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Hacks wrote:

idk, maybe it's just me but it looks like a swap of locations for iron grip and blood magic would not only be functional but appropriate as blood magic can effectively be used by all and iron grip would most benefit those heavily invested in the STR realm

YES! +1

That makes a TON of sense! Swap Blood Magic w/ Iron Grip....and I'll stop complaining about the new skill tree.

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ApocalypticTrick wrote:

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vankeris wrote:

I agree that the blood magic keystone should be move in the center area. As pointed out it really can benefit every class.

On the other hand I agree with flicker strike change. Even pretty much unsupported it felt like a very unfair skill to spam. I used it when I just thought - bah I just can't be bothered so I'll just press this and mana flask and kill everything in the vicinity. Even the mana cost was really low for such a powerful skill. Now you can skill spam it with blood rage and that at least gives a drawback in 4%/s hp drain.

I want to be able to spam FS with a ton of archers around. I have no other gap closer skills yet.

I'll even give that up though to have Blood Magic come back to center.

whirwind strike? phase run? get weapon+shield and use shield charge?

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Torin wrote:

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ApocalypticTrick wrote:

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vankeris wrote:

I agree that the blood magic keystone should be move in the center area. As pointed out it really can benefit every class.

On the other hand I agree with flicker strike change. Even pretty much unsupported it felt like a very unfair skill to spam. I used it when I just thought - bah I just can't be bothered so I'll just press this and mana flask and kill everything in the vicinity. Even the mana cost was really low for such a powerful skill. Now you can skill spam it with blood rage and that at least gives a drawback in 4%/s hp drain.

I want to be able to spam FS with a ton of archers around. I have no other gap closer skills yet.

I'll even give that up though to have Blood Magic come back to center.

whirwind strike? phase run? get weapon+shield and use shield charge?

I don't have whirlwind. Phase run doesn't guarantee a hit and sometimes I can't see the archers behind trees. I duel wield and don't have shield charge either.

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ApocalypticTrick wrote:

I don't have whirlwind. Phase run doesn't guarantee a hit and sometimes I can't see the archers behind trees. I duel wield and don't have shield charge either.

I'm sorry, you're a melee Shadow without Whirling Blades?

...Wow.

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ApocalypticTrick wrote:

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Torin wrote:

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ApocalypticTrick wrote:

I want to be able to spam FS with a ton of archers around. I have no other gap closer skills yet.

I'll even give that up though to have Blood Magic come back to center.

whirwind strike? phase run? get weapon+shield and use shield charge?

I don't have whirlwind. Phase run doesn't guarantee a hit and sometimes I can't see the archers behind trees. I duel wield and don't have shield charge either.

get whirlwind. flicker strike also doesn't guarantee a hit. dual wield + flicker is inferior to weapon + shield + flicker.

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ApocalypticTrick wrote:

I don't have whirlwind. Phase run doesn't guarantee a hit and sometimes I can't see the archers behind trees. I duel wield and don't have shield charge either.

You want to close the gap, Flicker doesn't do that anymore or what? You said that you just want to spam Flicker when there are archers around. And I don't have whirlwind is a lame excuse - it's not a hard to come by gem.

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Charan wrote:

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ApocalypticTrick wrote:

I don't have whirlwind. Phase run doesn't guarantee a hit and sometimes I can't see the archers behind trees. I duel wield and don't have shield charge either.

I'm sorry, you're a melee Shadow without Whirling Blades?

...Wow.

Never have seen that skill gem and I am over level 40. Another reason not to nerf Flicker Strike - it may be someone's only hope.

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vankeris wrote:

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ApocalypticTrick wrote:

I don't have whirlwind. Phase run doesn't guarantee a hit and sometimes I can't see the archers behind trees. I duel wield and don't have shield charge either.

You want to close the gap, Flicker doesn't do that anymore or what? You said that you just want to spam Flicker when there are archers around. And I don't have whirlwind is a lame excuse - it's not a hard to come by gem.

LOL - IT'S HARD TO COME BY IF YOU NEVER GET IT!!

I have 4 classes going and I've never seen it. Talk about LAME!!

Whirling Blades is offered to every Shadow as a reward for killing Brutus on normal.

Every.

Shadow.

Here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Anunpnd0-mAudHIxazRvZGpqLXdlQ3JfT0hkWVRjV2c#gid=0 -- quest reward list for .9.11.

It might have changed, but I'm dead sure it's still a Shadow reward quite early on. If anything, you might see it even earlier soon enough.

It is THE greatest mobility skill in the game.

It is MUCH easier to get than Flicker Strike.

For you to say you haven't seen it by level 40 is actually quite untrue. Or rather, the game showed it to you -- you just didn't see it. That's not our fault. Or our problem.

I have to say it again -- sorry.

And wow.

I know I'm late to the party, but even for my maurauder its much further to get the bloodmagic keystone.... i agree it should be moved back to the centre