Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Crizaig wrote:

Yeah, I already thought of calling him Dooodu but didn't feel the need to stoop to his level.

Better option is to just not respond at all. :/

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Crizaig wrote:

You seem to be the only moron who can't make any comments without belittling others. If you can't contribute anything to the topic at hand, don't comment. All you have done is rip on others every chance you get because you don't agree with their OPINIONS on the loot system.

....Two seconds later...

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Crizaig wrote:

If you weren't a complete moron, you would understand that the NON-FFA players are the ones who want some options or instanced loot.

LOL......

Its funny how you constantly contradict your statements.


You're like a chain smoker telling everyone not to smoke around him, because 2nd hand smokes bothers him.

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Crizaig wrote:

Why should players not benefit from party rewards just because of instanced loot or some other option?

So you don't want instanced loot?

Players want 'THEIR' drops... So, they get their drops.


Problem?

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Crizaig wrote:

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Why should players not benefit from party rewards just because of instanced loot or some other option?

Because in an instanced loot party you are guaranteed to get your loot, while in a FFA party you aren't. So there has to be some kind of penalty to balance that. I wouldn't say remove the benefit completely, but it should be substantially smaller.

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Worldbreaker wrote:

I just wanted to post in here that I enjoy the FFA lootsystem very much. I have a group of guys I play with now where we will do 6 man docks. Since we all decimate everything on the map the only real challenge is competing for loot. Please do not change it. Also, do not give me the option to play an easier mode as it would seduce me into it, and my friends would also switch to it as well. As far as group play goes it is a very divided topic, yes I would play it, but no I don't want it.

I could just imagine it. Fighting mobs then frolicking along the docks singing "tralalalala" holding hands and shooting rainbow lazers and adopting unicorns from the mythical pet shelter.

Just leave it, most people that don't come to the forums to complain prefer the system as it stands now. We have 30k+ people playing the game and the same 10 or so replying to each other in this thread. I am glad GGG can see through the haze.

Stay stronk bros, I got this!

seriously if you find grouping easy and you ask loot to be competitive is a VERY MAJOR flaw of the game...the game should be hard to KILL the mob(s) not a clickfest...

and we have sayed many many many many times...in the world of marketing the dissatisfied customers RARELY complain in the company (in our case forums) they just leave in silence

it is completely wrong to assume that because peoples do not post in this thread they "love" FFA (just count how many groups have the word "Ninja" in their title)

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killbilly wrote:

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Juggernaut448 wrote:

You work somewhere with that grammar? With everything you say I can hardly believe you're out of high school, or even then middle school.

yeah language attack..you know english is not the only language in the world ? also EU is not a country...(i bet you belong to the people that believe dont' it...)

you know that you lost the argument right? you know that you are full of BS right?
you know that i have already say that IL need more development time right?

how desperate to win are you guys...you cant' even get a fact straight

Wow, I simply love this I win you lose argument that had no substance to back itself up.

You're the worst type of person in this world, the type of people who are too bullheaded, stubborn or careless to even view the others persons opinion and take into consideration the thoughts and ideas others have if it's against your own viewpoint.

I'd imagine you'd rather stab a screwdriver in your pupil than to admit there can be a compromise with the loot system.

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Xavderion wrote:

Because in an instanced loot party you are guaranteed to get your loot, while in a FFA party you aren't. So there has to be some kind of penalty to balance that. I wouldn't say remove the benefit completely, but it should be substantially smaller.

The penalty is you don't see all of the loot. Right now, you see all of it. If it were instanced, you'd only see one-sixth of it (in a full party). This is assuming a fully instanced loot system.

Not seeing five-sixths is a HUGE penalty when it comes to high level crafting gear, your party may only see one white Vaal Regalia (to pick a popular ES crafting chest) in a level 75+ map and if you have instanced loot and a full party, odds are pretty good you won't see it.

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Juggernaut448 wrote:

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killbilly wrote:

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Juggernaut448 wrote:

You work somewhere with that grammar? With everything you say I can hardly believe you're out of high school, or even then middle school.

yeah language attack..you know english is not the only language in the world ? also EU is not a country...(i bet you belong to the people that believe dont' it...)

you know that you lost the argument right? you know that you are full of BS right?
you know that i have already say that IL need more development time right?

how desperate to win are you guys...you cant' even get a fact straight

Wow, I simply love this I win you lose argument that had no substance to back itself up.

You're the worst type of person in this world, the type of people who are too bullheaded, stubborn or careless to even view the others persons opinion and take into consideration the thoughts and ideas others have if it's against your own viewpoint.

I'd imagine you'd rather stab a screwdriver in your pupil than to admit there can be a compromise with the loot system.

blah blah blah blah blah
at least i do not attack to neither to the man himself nor his grammar do i?
as for the compromise are you smoking something? since day1 me and pretty much anyone says 1 thing
" loot options to party leader "

and the problem is that YOU guys do not accept OUR viewpoint..you just call us names (carebears,disabled,qqers,whiners etc) and advice us to get the f*** out of here

who is the

"You're the worst type of person in this world, the type of people who are too bullheaded, stubborn or careless to even view the others persons opinion and take into consideration the thoughts and ideas others have if it's against your own viewpoint"

now?

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killbilly wrote:

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Juggernaut448 wrote:

Wow, I simply love this I win you lose argument that had no substance to back itself up.

You're the worst type of person in this world, the type of people who are too bullheaded, stubborn or careless to even view the others persons opinion and take into consideration the thoughts and ideas others have if it's against your own viewpoint.

I'd imagine you'd rather stab a screwdriver in your pupil than to admit there can be a compromise with the loot system.

blah blah blah blah blah

There's that bullheadedness.

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killbilly wrote:

at least i do not attack to neither to the man himself nor his grammar do i?
as for the compromise are you smoking something?

You realize by saying that, that's an "attack" on it's own right? You're discrediting my intelligence and calling me daft by claiming I'm smoking thought impairing drugs. I'd also not like to search this thread for insults made by you and others that support your viewpoint, so let's leave that at that.

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killbilly wrote:

since day1 me and pretty much anyone says 1 thing
" loot options to party leader "

And that's your only standpoint on the whole thing. You won't acknowledge other valid viewpoints and compromises other than your own.

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killbilly wrote:

and the problem is that YOU guys do not accept OUR viewpoint..you just call us names (carebears,disabled,qqers,whiners etc) and advice us to get the f*** out of here

I've acknowledged your viewpoint multiple times by saying if you want instanced loot options, it would take the developers months, maybe even a year to implement the system, since they would have to rework part of the base of the game. Remember when I said coding was hard?

You refused to listen to me and instead kept saying it's simple to do.

I agreed with a solution posted before that could work, but you instantly shot it down without a second thought because it wasn't an instanced loot option.

I apologize before about the attack on your grammar, I understand there are other languages, but communication is key when in a debate.

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Juggernaut448 wrote:

I've acknowledged your viewpoint multiple times by saying if you want instanced loot options, it would take the developers months, maybe even a year to implement the system, since they would have to rework part of the base of the game. Remember when I said coding was hard?

Months to a Year to make a variable change? Exaggerate much? The Devs have posted that changing the loot system would be an EASY tasks.