Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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mibuwolf wrote:
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tackle70 wrote:
Anyways, unless they can at minimum fix latency issues, they need to add an option for no-ninja/instanced loot, or come up to an equivalent solution to the problem.


Otherwise I'm gonna keep getting kicked from the party even if I didn't ninja anything. I got kicked once for just saying "that's what the system intended".


It's just frustrating for everyone the way it is now. The player base is obviously split on the issue but with nothing in place to deal with that from a game mechanics side.

So like you said, people get paranoid and kick people for no reason, people join "no-ninja" parties and proceed to grief and steal everyone's loot, people join "FFA" parties and whine about their loot getting stolen, it's just a bad situation right now and I see no upside for anyone to leaving it this way.

I don't know if there's a more creative way to solve the problem than providing an option for instanced loot, or not, but that is one simple possible solution.
The 352nd character to hit Level 100 in Standard
The 82nd character to hit Delve 1000 in Standard
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Vooodu wrote:
Actually i didn't call the poster a moron.

I called everyone who uses the term "NINJA" a moron.


Which would include that poster.

Ninja has just become the in-game way to describe people who run around griefing loot that dropped for others. There's no reason to attack people using the term.
The 352nd character to hit Level 100 in Standard
The 82nd character to hit Delve 1000 in Standard
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tackle70 wrote:

I don't know if there's a more creative way to solve the problem than providing an option for instanced loot, or not, but that is one simple possible solution.


Simple way to solve this..

Instanced loot toggle switch next the character ICON on the character select screen. Which can me toggled on and off only at that screen.

Now all loot is instanced but with NO party loot rewards. Only party EXP is shared.


This will shut up everyone once and for all on this topic.


Id bet anyone anything im right.
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Vooodu wrote:
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tackle70 wrote:

I don't know if there's a more creative way to solve the problem than providing an option for instanced loot, or not, but that is one simple possible solution.


Simple way to solve this..

Instanced loot toggle switch next the character ICON on the character select screen. Which can me toggled on and off only at that screen.

Now all loot is instanced but with NO party loot rewards. Only party EXP is shared.


This will shut up everyone once and for all on this topic.


Id bet anyone anything im right.


Most people in this thread, I think (myself included), are only asking for the option for something like that to be included. I don't think anyone is saying to remove the current system.
The 352nd character to hit Level 100 in Standard
The 82nd character to hit Delve 1000 in Standard
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tackle70 wrote:
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mibuwolf wrote:
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tackle70 wrote:
Anyways, unless they can at minimum fix latency issues, they need to add an option for no-ninja/instanced loot, or come up to an equivalent solution to the problem.


Otherwise I'm gonna keep getting kicked from the party even if I didn't ninja anything. I got kicked once for just saying "that's what the system intended".


It's just frustrating for everyone the way it is now. The player base is obviously split on the issue but with nothing in place to deal with that from a game mechanics side.

So like you said, people get paranoid and kick people for no reason, people join "no-ninja" parties and proceed to grief and steal everyone's loot, people join "FFA" parties and whine about their loot getting stolen, it's just a bad situation right now and I see no upside for anyone to leaving it this way.

I don't know if there's a more creative way to solve the problem than providing an option for instanced loot, or not, but that is one simple possible solution.


Yeah, and for that i made a suggestion and asked for maybe better ideas how to deal with it

as right now, im just joining partys to atleast get SOME ep on them docks when not running maps

and jeah, even hard to get them maps with 6players rushing to each item that dropps for other ppl instead of actually playing.
Ah saw so many ppl die to get the loot wich had 'a timer on with their name just coz they where afraid of some1 taking it when they dont LOOT IT RIGHT AWAY

dunno, like this its just plain stupid
Kitava have mercy on your soul.
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tackle70 wrote:
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Vooodu wrote:
Actually i didn't call the poster a moron.

I called everyone who uses the term "NINJA" a moron.


Which would include that poster.

Ninja has just become the in-game way to describe people who run around griefing loot that dropped for others. There's no reason to attack people using the term.


....*face palm*

Well, if the shoe fits....



Obviously, after that statement the shoe fits you well too.


So basically GGG puts in a random loot timer for ranged classes to have a chance at drops.

People confuse this 'chance timer' for it being their drop..



They then get MAD when other people pick it up after the timer expires.


And then spend a SHIT LOAD of time complaining about NINJAS, GRIEFERS, LOOT WHORES and blah, blah blah... What ever.


Believe me, i have other choice words for these morons.. But, i think 'moron' is the most tasteful word to describe someone as stupid as that.






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Worldbreaker wrote:
I just wanted to post in here that I enjoy the FFA lootsystem very much. I have a group of guys I play with now where we will do 6 man docks. Since we all decimate everything on the map the only real challenge is competing for loot. Please do not change it. Also, do not give me the option to play an easier mode as it would seduce me into it, and my friends would also switch to it as well. As far as group play goes it is a very divided topic, yes I would play it, but no I don't want it.

I could just imagine it. Fighting mobs then frolicking along the docks singing "tralalalala" holding hands and shooting rainbow lazers and adopting unicorns from the mythical pet shelter.

Just leave it, most people that don't come to the forums to complain prefer the system as it stands now. We have 30k+ people playing the game and the same 10 or so replying to each other in this thread. I am glad GGG can see through the haze.



Sorry, but this post is just plan stupid in my opinion.

- You say you like FFA
-> that's ok, no objections

- you say don't give us option, because we would play with those options then
-> how stupid is that? If you ACTUALLY LIKE FFA, why should you switch to that mode? If you like the challange, play with FFA, if you don't like it, then play instanced loot. Not everyone wants to have a challange with other people

You can compare it with a zombie apocalypse: There will be people who are not trusting anyone and would always grief or kill them just to get something to survive a day longer. But then there are other people (like the ones who dont like FFA) who would like just to play in a party with others against monsters and not against each other. The current system only supports hostility between players and not teamplay...
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Crizaig wrote:

It's pretty stupid that you can't come up with a single compromise that doesn't penalize the NON-FFA players. Every single compromise you have come up with MUST penalize anyone who wants to play with loot options/instanced loot.

I can already imagine you raging at home by smashing your toys with a baseball bat and punching yourself in the crotch because people get some better loot options without penalties.


WTF is a NON-FFA player? What are you even talking about? ...lol


People want instanced loot... Give then instanced loot and shaaad up. What, you want instanced loot with party reward drops too?......lmao.





And the fact you like to imagine me doing things to my crotch is not a big suprise. I hope you imagine me in my superman thong.




Last edited by Vooodu#7002 on Feb 14, 2013, 1:05:28 PM
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Crizaig wrote:
You seem to be the only moron who can't make any comments without belittling others. If you can't contribute anything to the topic at hand, don't comment. All you have done is rip on others every chance you get because you don't agree with their OPINIONS on the loot system.





OooOh... Is CryZaig is crying again.

Grab the rain coats.



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Vooodu wrote:
CryZaig


Seriously? Homonym name-calling? Is this grade two?

@crizaig; here's a freebie - "Pooodu"; it's like poo-poo and doo-doo, so it's like he comes from a butt. Ha ha ha.

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