Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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MrH wrote:

I don't want to have to stop fighting just so I get a fair share of the loot.

This is my feeling...100%.

As it stands, you are rewarded for leeching off your party. Say whatever you want about the advantages/disadvantages of the current loot system, but if you are rewarded for leeching the game will suffer.

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Panda413 wrote:

I could write out a list of pros/cons to each loot option. Many of the anti-FFA people say "There is NO good reason to use FFA loot."

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Sickness wrote:

Please do.

If I thought it would help. I would. But this thread is a pointless dual circlejerk. I'm just here for entertainment. I've already acknowledged that I believe there are good points to support loot options. If you look back in my history to 2011 when I first got in CB I was actually a supporter of loot options. I just now believe that when weighing the good points from each side, keeping things as they are is a fine solution in my opinion.

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Sickness wrote:

No, not true. You don't even understand the difference between "There is NO good reason to use FFA loot" and "There is NO good reason to use FFA loot ONLY"

Perfect example! There are good reasons to use FFA loot only. They have been explained numerous times. So if you still believe there are no good reasons, then there is no reason to include you or your opinion in the debate. Your words indicate as much.

Shortsighted people get offended when they are called shortsighted. I can't help that. Don't ask me to ignore reality. Work on being less shortsighted.

So far, everyone that has chosen to respond to my critique of the anti-ffa crowd has only added evidence to my point.

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Panda413 wrote:

If I thought it would help. I would. But this thread is a pointless dual circlejerk. I'm just here for entertainment. I've already acknowledged that I believe there are good points to support loot options. If you look back in my history to 2011 when I first got in CB I was actually a supporter of loot options. I just now believe that when weighing the good points from each side, keeping things as they are is a fine solution in my opinion.

So you can't?

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Panda413 wrote:

Perfect example! There are good reasons to use FFA loot only. They have been explained numerous times. So if you still believe there are no good reasons, then there is no reason to include you or your opinion in the debate. Your words indicate as much.

No there is good reason to use FFA loot only. I have personally refuted every argument for it with clear and simple logic. and so have many others.

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Panda413 wrote:

Shortsighted people get offended when they are called shortsighted. I can't help that. Don't ask me to ignore reality. Work on being less shortsighted.

So far, everyone that has chosen to respond to my critique of the anti-ffa crowd has only added evidence to my point.

I actually laughed out loud when I read that. Shortsighted? Me?? That is ridiculous.

My suggestion is to give 2 options when creating a group.

Option 1. Looting System like it exists now.

Option 2. Seperated Loot ( like in d3)

The thing is that the game fps drops really bad when a hoard of mobs are killed at the same time and the pick up timer for the rare item loots are just too short.

I would really appreciate a longer pick up timer for rare loot.

Not every player got a highend gamer system but they still want to play and experience a normal gameplay flow.

I would not call that a fair competition between player (some of them will have fps drops others will not) For the one with fps drops it is impossible to run to his loot before the timer ends.

THIS IS DISTURBING !

Please dear Devs. Make it a fair gameplay for everyone.

Love this game but it would be even better. At least set the loot timer higher

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AceNightfire wrote:

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Crizaig wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

In a brain storm session there are no shitty ideas. I agree that allowing IIQ/IIR to affect the loot timer has the potential for abuse and leaching but the idea does have some merits.

He wants the ability to stack IIQ/IIR to get more items allocated to himself. It truly is a shitty idea.

Just hang back and do shit for DPS and collect more loot than everyone else who is actually doing the damage to the mobs and killing them.

Easy to solve: if someone doesn't fight with the group, the leader can kick him (if there is no kicking option, it is no problem to implement one).

If the leader sees that there is someone with full MF gear who doesn't help at all, why even bothering playing with him? Kick him and he won't get any items anymore if he doesn't fight.

Another option would be, that someone who doesn't deal enough damage, has zero chance of getting a counter. So being productive in a group is a MUST to get the chance for a timer. Easy as that...

Yes the group leader can keep an eye and kick leaches. Un-fortunately we end up with the leader being a hall monitor. It is a good idea and I think players should have some reward for increasing the parties IIR total.

lol this is still going? and still no word from the devs.. I quit the game because I got bored playing alone and won't join public parties with this system. bb

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Sickness wrote:

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Panda413 wrote:

Perfect example! There are good reasons to use FFA loot only. They have been explained numerous times. So if you still believe there are no good reasons, then there is no reason to include you or your opinion in the debate. Your words indicate as much.

No there is good reason to use FFA loot only. I have personally refuted every argument for it with clear and simple logic. and so have many others.

Not sure if you are agreeing with me now or just haven't mastered the English language? Assuming you are still cluelessly saying there is no good reason for FFA only... you're wrong. Plain and simple. If you can't grasp that elementary concept, then me continuing to use reason and logic to respond to you is a waste of time. If you were capable of seeing the flaw in your logic, you wouldn't present the flawed logic as fact.

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Panda413 wrote:

Shortsighted people get offended when they are called shortsighted. I can't help that. Don't ask me to ignore reality. Work on being less shortsighted.

So far, everyone that has chosen to respond to my critique of the anti-ffa crowd has only added evidence to my point.

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Sickness wrote:

I actually laughed out loud when I read that. Shortsighted? Me?? That is ridiculous.

My apologies. You might not be a shortsighted person. You are just making a shortsighted argument in this particular instance. I don't mean to insult you as a person; just your weak points in this discussion. (sincere - not mocking)

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killbilly wrote:

in fact we that are opposed FFA heard the worst comments like

"carebears"
"noobs"
"l2play"
"PoE is not for casuals"
"go away!!"
"this isnt' your game"

Well, honestly. Most of them make alot of sense.

If you can't pick up items as a ranged class you need to learn how to play.

If you think timers means dropped items are yours, that players need to learn how to play.


If you want a causal game, this is not really it.


I mean, some of those comments can apply to other whiner threads too. Not just this one.

Just sayin'.

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Vooodu wrote:

Well, honestly. Most of them make alot of sense.

If you can't pick up items as a ranged class you need to learn how to play.

If you think timers means dropped items are yours, that players need to learn how to play.


If you want a causal game, this is not really it.


I mean, some of those comments can apply to other whiner threads too. Not just this one.

Just sayin'.

Finally you are here!

Goodbye Panda413, you lost.

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Xavderion wrote:

I don't like full IL because it feels like playing in your own instanced bubble and your group members are just more or less clever bots.

If you gonna play ffa anyway and not instanced, why do you care?
Its not forced down your throat.