Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Crizaig wrote:

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Xaxyx wrote:

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Crizaig wrote:

Considering most of the arguments about loot is the timers being too short, I think it's safe to say they will be extended. By how much? Nobody knows except GGG.

Whereas, I don't think it's safe to say anything when it comes to GGG. Really if anything, the way that Brian's quote reads, it implies that he thinks the timers will be shortened on some loot, and *removed entirely* from others.

LOL, shortening timers... really? You are smoking crack, bro. Perhaps, you should go back and read through the last 200 pages.

Assuming makes an ass our of yourself. I can also say there are a lot of people that are for FFA loot. You just find more people whining on the forums about wanting to change FFA loot because the people who enjoy the current system are playing the game.

Also, there were a ton of people in this thread who support and still support the current system. Read the last 500 pages. Hell, someone even kept count at one point and the people who wanted to keep FFA weren't outnumbered.

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Juggernaut448 wrote:

Hell, someone even kept count at one point and the people who wanted to keep FFA weren't outnumbered.

link? proof?

Would it be possible for them to leave the names on the item even after it exited restricted pickup for those people who want to be more polite and for those times when you want to know who it dropped for to begin with?

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Crizaig wrote:

LOL, shortening timers... really? You are smoking crack, bro. Perhaps, you should go back and read through the last 200 pages.

What for? I wrote half of 'em. :p Besides, GGG hasn't posted in this thread for what, a year plus?

In any event, here, read this statement aloud:

"Very, very unlikely that the menu will ever be purely vegetarian, but we will likely adjust the meat amounts, and what things get meat."

Now try this one:

"Very, very unlikely that the swimming party will be purely skinny-dipping, but we will likely adjust the clothing lengths, and which people get clothes."

Now go back and read Brian's statement.

Daaaaamn, that would suuuuck if that is what that means.
In that case they'd basically be showing greens the door :(

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Kwyjibo wrote:

FFA loots is the big pain of this game.

All the rest is great. Keep up the good work !

+1

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Crizaig wrote:

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Juggernaut448 wrote:

Also, there were a ton of people in this thread who support and still support the current system. Read the last 500 pages. Hell, someone even kept count at one point and the people who wanted to keep FFA weren't outnumbered.

Fact: More people wanted change to the loot system than to keep it the same or full FFA. You FFA supporters were outnumbered by a lot. You are the one who should go back and read the thread.

It doesn't come down to numbers of who supports this and who supports that. It comes down to what image GGG wants their game to display and what fits best with the theme.

FFA is simply the way to go for this type of game and I really don't understand why people have so many problems with it. I have played both ranged and melee, managed to do good dps, and still have time to loot what belonged to me. If ever I didn't, who cares? Move on to the next one.. I'll see that alchemy orb that dude sniped from me 10000 more times through the course of my play time.

You get plenty of time to get your designated stuff.. loot it or lose it.

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Crizaig wrote:

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Juggernaut448 wrote:

Also, there were a ton of people in this thread who support and still support the current system. Read the last 500 pages. Hell, someone even kept count at one point and the people who wanted to keep FFA weren't outnumbered.

Fact: More people wanted change to the loot system than to keep it the same or full FFA. You FFA supporters were outnumbered by a lot. You are the one who should go back and read the thread.

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wrathmar wrote:

link? proof?

Got you this time Crizaig. http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/392/page/447

Top of the page, this good sir kept count. Instanced loot people were at 19.

personally, I'd pool current and full FFA as the same since the current system is still FFA.

That means 34 people are for FFA type loot. Get them facts straight son.

Of course a lot of people offer a compromise, in which even I offered one just to help the people complaining to shut up, but I'd rather set myself in the current loot system bracket because I'm perfectly fine with the allocated time given to me to get said loot.

Also, just because there seems to be more people expressing their distaste for FFA loot on the forums doesn't mean there are more people who want instanced rather than FFA. The people enjoying FFA loot are too busy playing and have nothing to complain about.

Admittedly, I just recently found the game and haven't gotten a chance to try it out yet...

But I will say that FFA loot is a huge deal-breaker for me. I flat-out refuse to party with people I don't know if there's no sort of loot system.

Yes, you can say "then only play with friends", or something like that. That's not a reason your system works, it's an admittance that it doesn't work. If you build a game with the ability to group up and play co-op with random people, all you manage to do with FFA loot is sabotage that whole system.

Now, my personal thought would be to let the group leader decide which loot system (FFA, instanced, need-or-greed, master looter, timers, etc) the group uses. Have some controls that keep him from switching it right before/during a big boss to avoid ninja'ing, and let the players decide which loot system to use.