Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Tandimonium wrote:

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KorganBloodaxe wrote:

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Tandimonium wrote:

Do the right thing?! Exactly when did you buy GGG? The only "Right thing" is whatever the hell the Devs want this game to be, not your view. While I have seen them take a ton of feedback and work with it, you need to stop feeling entitled. You do not own the game, and the Devs enjoy the way it is. I am sure there will be compromise, but until you own the game, you don't get to decide what "the right thing" is.

They have a vision, and to demand them abandon that after years of work is selfish. The game does not "Have" to be anything, it will be what the developers imagined, and that is how unique games are created.

And why do you get to decide what the right thing is?
Maybe the devs decisions matched your expectation in the past, but I don't see any reason why that should stay that way. They changed their mind and will do so again.
Especially when situations change. And the move to Open beta was a fundamental change. Things (like the loot system) that were a minor annoyance before turn out to be a complete show-stopper with the influx of countless new players.

And accusing us of being selfish is ridiculous. The reason why we voice our opinions is because we want this game to succeed and thrive.
That becomes evident when you consider the fact that people who are opposed to the FFA-system tend(not all, but most) to bring arguments into the discussion, while FFA-supporters tend(not all, but most) to answer with crude insults.

KORGAN! Buddy! It has been too long Sir.

I never stated I get to decide what is right, infact, I said that the only people that know what the "Right" thing is are the devs. As for opinions? They are great! Even I have one in storage! However, my point was, stating "the right thing" is saying there is a right and a wrong way. The individual saying that is stating that the only "Right" way, is their way. Kinda arguing the same thing here I think. I am not opposed to discussions, or changes for that matter. In fact, I do not view the Loot system is in line with my view, I want pure FFA. Just because I enjoy it. But to say that my way is the only "Right" way is feeling entitled and selfish.

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raz415 wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

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XCodes wrote:

I'm going to take Vooodu's advice. I want options, therefore fuck Path of Exile.

Bye.

No need to quit they are planning on how to change the system already

In Chris’s recent post http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/87905 he states
“We have been internally discussing community feedback on topics such as looting options”

So if you want to, take a break and wait for the patch that fixes this.

Don't be shocked when their fix is adding an extra 0.0001s to the timer and that's the end of it. Apparently GGG wants this FFA shit in the game. I'll be playing with friends from now on, fuck 6 man parties. Because that's the game that GGG wants to make.

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Tandimonium wrote:

I never stated I get to decide what is right, infact, I said that the only people that know what the "Right" thing is are the devs. As for opinions? They are great! Even I have one in storage! However, my point was, stating "the right thing" is saying there is a right and a wrong way. The individual saying that is stating that the only "Right" way, is their way. Kinda arguing the same thing here I think. I am not opposed to discussions, or changes for that matter. In fact, I do not view the Loot system is in line with my view, I want pure FFA. Just because I enjoy it. But to say that my way is the only "Right" way is feeling entitled and selfish.

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FrodoFraggins wrote:

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Tandimonium wrote:

I never stated I get to decide what is right, infact, I said that the only people that know what the "Right" thing is are the devs. As for opinions? They are great! Even I have one in storage! However, my point was, stating "the right thing" is saying there is a right and a wrong way. The individual saying that is stating that the only "Right" way, is their way. Kinda arguing the same thing here I think. I am not opposed to discussions, or changes for that matter. In fact, I do not view the Loot system is in line with my view, I want pure FFA. Just because I enjoy it. But to say that my way is the only "Right" way is feeling entitled and selfish.

Why should the devs be the ultimate choice on what is "right" for looting? Let's say a majority of the population wants individual loot or the right to make a game that has that rule.

Why should the devs prevent that without at least trying it to see if it is beneficial or detrimental? It's clear that people feel strongly both wqays. Generally, those that are fast at picking up items or have a pickit bot to do it want FFA looting as they will see a benefit.

Just make game creation choices on looting rules please! It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Devs/Designers aren't always right. Look at Jay Wilson for example.

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FrodoFraggins wrote:

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Tandimonium wrote:

I never stated I get to decide what is right, infact, I said that the only people that know what the "Right" thing is are the devs. As for opinions? They are great! Even I have one in storage! However, my point was, stating "the right thing" is saying there is a right and a wrong way. The individual saying that is stating that the only "Right" way, is their way. Kinda arguing the same thing here I think. I am not opposed to discussions, or changes for that matter. In fact, I do not view the Loot system is in line with my view, I want pure FFA. Just because I enjoy it. But to say that my way is the only "Right" way is feeling entitled and selfish.

Why should the devs be the ultimate choice on what is "right" for looting? Let's say a majority of the population wants individual loot or the right to make a game that has that rule.

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thepmrc wrote:

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FrodoFraggins wrote:

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Tandimonium wrote:

I never stated I get to decide what is right, infact, I said that the only people that know what the "Right" thing is are the devs. As for opinions? They are great! Even I have one in storage! However, my point was, stating "the right thing" is saying there is a right and a wrong way. The individual saying that is stating that the only "Right" way, is their way. Kinda arguing the same thing here I think. I am not opposed to discussions, or changes for that matter. In fact, I do not view the Loot system is in line with my view, I want pure FFA. Just because I enjoy it. But to say that my way is the only "Right" way is feeling entitled and selfish.

Why should the devs be the ultimate choice on what is "right" for looting? Let's say a majority of the population wants individual loot or the right to make a game that has that rule.

Because it is their vision, their game, and their right. If you want this choice to be yours then dedicate your life and savings to creating your vision of a great game.

That being said, I have faith that they will do what is best for the game.

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Draqone wrote:

I would like to +1 for options.

I think the group leader should be able to set it to either:

FFA - no timers
Standard
Locked - 3x longer timers