Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Vooodu wrote:
I wonder how big this thread would actually be if HillyBilly and a few others would simply put a sock in it for a day or too.

Me included.



He's not arguing with himself... Takes 2 to tango.
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mobutu wrote:
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SL4Y3R wrote:
Please stop referring to pub parties as teams.
Theyre not.

dude, people team to win something in the end. be it itemz, be it xp, whatever
no matter is private or public, its the same.
That is why ffa logic is flawed. Heck, even the dev vision in regards to the ffa loot used is flawed.
A team is a team NO MATTER how you look at it. It's gommon goal, purpose is to win.
That team is made by people, who all work together to reach the goal/purpose.
They reach it, so the team have benefits.
And all members have a right from that benefits.
A right, not an option.
This is bullet proof argument.


Correct. However, it is rather apparent that everyone in pub parties is not working towards the same goal. Otherwise, you wouldn't have leechers, "ninjas", none of that.

Just. because you join a random group does not make it a team. If you do not know what the other players goals are, and what they're trying to accomplish/win.

It's not a team. It's a group of random people.
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gschum wrote:
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Vooodu wrote:
I wonder how big this thread would actually be if HillyBilly and a few others would simply put a sock in it for a day or too.

Me included.



He's not arguing with himself... Takes 2 to tango.


i secretly love voodoo :p
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself
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SL4Y3R wrote:
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mobutu wrote:
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SL4Y3R wrote:
Please stop referring to pub parties as teams.
Theyre not.

dude, people team to win something in the end. be it itemz, be it xp, whatever
no matter is private or public, its the same.
That is why ffa logic is flawed. Heck, even the dev vision in regards to the ffa loot used is flawed.
A team is a team NO MATTER how you look at it. It's gommon goal, purpose is to win.
That team is made by people, who all work together to reach the goal/purpose.
They reach it, so the team have benefits.
And all members have a right from that benefits.
A right, not an option.
This is bullet proof argument.


Correct. However, it is rather apparent that everyone in pub parties is not working towards the same goal. Otherwise, you wouldn't have leechers, "ninjas", none of that.

Just. because you join a random group does not make it a team. If you do not know what the other players goals are, and what they're trying to accomplish/win.

It's not a team. It's a group of random people.


you dont know what your goal is when you join a public group or creat a group with "kill piety" hmm, i cant follow you sry, really dont know whats your goal is you want to reach with this post
Last edited by Zulgohlan#3218 on Feb 1, 2013, 10:04:59 AM
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Vooodu wrote:
Since the same people constantly post the same thins il do the same.


Wether you like it or refuse to accept it... Well, its not your game and you didn't make it.

Its a FFA loot game and thats how the creators want it. Thats how it is and will be, for a while at least.

So really, its pointless to keep refusing the so called "pointless arguements" FFA'ers make. They are just repeating what the devs stated and enjoy it.

In the end, maybe this game just isn't for some of the people who continually complain about FFA loot. No ones forcing anyone to play this game. There are many games out there that do it in many other ways, including exactly how most of you complainers want it. Why ball and chain yourself to this game and demand a change?


....I mean the games called Path of Exile not Path of Least Resistance. :D


Deal with it. Or keep on crying. Its working wonders.


lol if things get changed you are so gonna be eating a ton of words. so lets hope not ;)
FFA'ers are 2 kind of people:

- People constantly doing runs with friends (and like the lewtz)
- Ninja'ers

Im not for instanced loot, or against it, but I think increasing the timer for 5 to 10 secs would be a decent solution. OFC who plays with friends doesnt want the instanced loot, mainly because loot drops would be calculated individually (based on the maps + your IIQ/IIR), they are just loot whores.
Unfortunatelly, the facerolling way that party play is right now allows for constant ninja'ing for people that join up just for that end.

Looting & party play WILL get changed, we just dont know how GGG intends to change it.
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killbilly wrote:
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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:


Looting is a non-issue.


you friend is the worst moron in all this thread


I agree with this statement the most out of the whole thread, 0Blackiewhatever is the largest moron to post in this whole thread, full of stupid opinions, and some how thinks that are fact.
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killbilly wrote:
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fevgatos wrote:
After reading almost a hundred pages I came up to this conclusion...WOW

How close minded can this community be?

First of all, there is a 5second time window for you to grab your loot.


sorry friend but i stopped reading there....


Same here, stopped reading the moment you said that! Way to write a wall of text, but next time tip fyi put your closing statement at the end, not the start. Thanks for saving everyone the trouble of having to read your bloated boast, of self boasting.
Last edited by AaronGR#2030 on Feb 1, 2013, 10:30:58 AM
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SL4Y3R wrote:
...it is rather apparent that everyone in pub parties is not working towards the same goal ... Just because you join a random group does not make it a team.
If you do not know what the other players goals are, and what they're trying to accomplish/win.
It's not a team. It's a group of random people.

Well, when i look at the public parties noticeboard i see this kinds of party titles:
-kill vaal/piety/oak/gravicius/whomever;
-farm pyramid/fellshrine/docks/whatever;
-help with whatever;
-let's do whatever quest;
-pls someone give me that waypoint;
etcetera
So it seems to me that the party goal/accomplishment is known before someone enters that party.

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SL4Y3R wrote:
Otherwise, you wouldn't have leechers, "ninjas", none of that.

We have these category of people because the current system caters them.
I believe that the system should have some basic "laws", some coercion/constrain just like in real life where it would be anarchy without the law.
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AaronGR wrote:
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killbilly wrote:
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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:


Looting is a non-issue.


you friend is the worst moron in all this thread


I agree with this statement the most out of the whole thread, 0Blackiewhatever is the largest moron to post in this whole thread, full of stupid opinions, and some how thinks that are fact.


Says the two morons with disgusting grammar. Stupid opinions? You mean facts? Sorry to tell you, but you being so ridiculously stupid that you're incapable of logical thought, does not change reality. Understand?

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