Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

They deserve it because they were closer to the item and clicked on it first. Tell me more about how this makes sense. Utterly disgusting loot behavior.

I've had many items with my name on it. I proceed to run over and click on it with my name still on it and a marauder trots over and scoops it up. They were caster items.

Cool story tho

I feel like i'm talking to religious people, the logic is ever so circular and makes no sense.

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Worldbreaker wrote:

I can run from one corner of vaals room to the other side before the timer goes off and my ping is pretty bad @160.

If you die cause someone else is picking up loot then perhaps you need a respec. This to me is exciting, I laugh everytime someone runs through a mob to die for a jeweler.

Professional gamers go to tournaments and give their effort their skills and their time to win a tournament. Not all of them are given something either, but they did have the opportunity to get something, it was offered for a time but they didn't get a prize due to someone else being better, faster and/or smarter.

I couldn't quote you all, at work atm on my phone.

Seriously I told you to use car examples!!!!

If I want to go lay tournament in can go play to a tournament unless you mean that playing Poe every day is a tournament itself... In that case where is my $$ prize? I see none only ggg asks for my $$

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GnarlyBurns wrote:

They deserve it because they were closer to the item and clicked on it first. Tell me more about how this makes sense. Utterly disgusting loot behavior.

I've had many items with my name on it. I proceed to run over and click on it with my name still on it and a marauder trots over and scoops it up. They were caster items.

Cool story tho

I feel like i'm talking to religious people, the logic is ever so circular and makes no sense.

I totally agree is like talking to a wall they do not have the slightest clue and they come up with total nonsense to prove us wrong.
The solution is simple play Poe as single player do not buy anything from shop get your money worth (If you donated in cb) and find a better game (100hours for 30 bucks is a good deal).

Then let's see if this hard core players can support a game..

I'd really like to play with strangers, but don't ever because of the loot system.

While the core concepts of having a cutthroat feel to the game make sense, in practice it doesn't feel cutthroat. It feels like artificially stressful and poorly thought-out gameplay. I realize that the devs have said that they thought about this long and hard, but it doesn't feel that way to most players until they investigate online as I did and literally read that the devs feel strongly about this. To those who don't peruse forums, it just seems like a sloppy, unfinished, and perhaps neglected mechanic.

It reminds me of this time in WoW when I was playing on a PvE server after being used to the PvP servers. I was fishing for a specific type of fish and this opposite faction level 8 walks up and beats me to the fishing hole. I couldn't kill him or prevent him from taking it. It didn't feel "cutthroat" that he frantically raced there first and beat me. It just felt like an artificial constraint.

Altogether, it's the #1 aspect of this game that just elicits a "bad" feeling to me.

I also think it's important to understand that compared to other games, this community is extremely positive, so the vast majority of the feedback and criticisms are honest and out of good will/genuine concern (opposed to D3 where people are inclined to view things in negative light rather than positive, for example). However, there is also the loyalty aspect. It's worthwhile to consider than many would go along with the devs out of support and loyalty and not necessarily because it's preferable for them. They might not even realize it. So there's strong incentive to agree with the precedent (supporting devs), but there is little incentive to go against it (confronting devs) without actually strongly disagreeing.

This game has massive potential, but I fear some aspects are different for the sake of being different, rather than being different because it's a gameplay improvement.

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Luvz wrote:

This game has massive potential, but I fear some aspects are different for the sake of being different, rather than being different because it's a gameplay improvement.

Exactly

The fun fact is that the only people who want FFA are ninjas and griefers - the loot mechanics have been designed to provide these guys with fresh victims.

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BitmapFrogs wrote:

The fun fact is that the only people who want FFA are ninjas and griefers - the loot mechanics have been designed to provide these guys with fresh victims.

Wrong.

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Crizaig wrote:

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BitmapFrogs wrote:

The fun fact is that the only people who want FFA are ninjas and griefers - the loot mechanics have been designed to provide these guys with fresh victims.

Wrong.

No. He's right.

Funny, we played together (CBT and ABT) for over a year. Very rarely was this even an issue. All you have to do is either:

A) Take everything yourself.
B) Pick up your loot within the given time.
C) Uninstall

Obviously, I hope you pick A or B, but if you are that dense you can't adapt then maybe C is the better option. The only reason I don't want to see any of that in the same league is because now we will have variations on loot drop mechanics and that sets up for a weighted economy. If anything hopefully they will add a new league for you guys to play on.

As far as the system only being for griefers and ninjas, I always put FFA LOOT on my party names, the only people I ever have to kick are those that just run around opening vases and chests. It is amazing, no one argues no one bitches, everyone PLAYS THE DAMN GAME!

I will leave this thread now, no one is watching it anyways.

All I can say is enjoy the FFA while its still there because with all this crying sooner or later they will change it and dont tell me about loot OPTIONS because who will play on a race league with FFA instead of safe Instanced loot?

Next target: Full Respec.

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Worldbreaker wrote:

but if you are that dense you can't adapt then maybe C is the better option.

So now you have to be smart to have mad clicking skills....or maybe its just really fast internet and the mindset of focusing more on the loot than on the real gameplay.

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Worldbreaker wrote:

The only reason I don't want to see any of that in the same league is because now we will have variations on loot drop mechanics and that sets up for a weighted economy.

A non competitive system does not have to have any difference in the amount of loot. The economy would not have to change at all.

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Worldbreaker wrote:

I will leave this thread now, no one is watching it anyways.

Thats fine, there are much more level headed and non insulting FFA supporters out there to post anyhow.

As long as the devs looks at it occasionally thats all that matters.