meaninful combat where? Is it possible to defeat an arbiter without equipping any items?

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This just goes to show how well balanced the game is, yet again. I don't recall in which interview exactly, But I remember when Mark or Jonathan said they had like 2 people doing balance? And only recently they're training 3 more or so?? I mean... it shows.

It might also show how weak the boss design is, but it's hard to tell when he does that much damage...


If beating bosses naked is "weak boss design" then every single Souls game has "weak boss design". I don't think many people will agree you on that.
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MEITTI#3999 wrote:
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This just goes to show how well balanced the game is, yet again. I don't recall in which interview exactly, But I remember when Mark or Jonathan said they had like 2 people doing balance? And only recently they're training 3 more or so?? I mean... it shows.

It might also show how weak the boss design is, but it's hard to tell when he does that much damage...


If beating bosses naked is "weak boss design" then every single Souls game has "weak boss design". I don't think many people will agree you on that.


Dark Soul is a mechanical skill oriented game

Path of Exile is a equipment and build oriented game

If the bosses can be trivialized by characters with literally no equipments, its either the build is broken OP or the bosses are too easy. For if this behavior is allowed then there would be zero point in farming and gearing your characters anymore. Just Lv1 0 equipment do everything.

Seems like both tbh.
1. "Meaningful Combat" Is Anti-ARPG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3884793
2. Mechanical Skill (Dodgeroll) and Intellectual Skill: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883605
3. Some PoE2 Numbers and Charts: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3896886
Last edited by nagisanzeninzz#2697 on Dec 31, 2025, 1:36:11 AM
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MEITTI#3999 wrote:
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This just goes to show how well balanced the game is, yet again. I don't recall in which interview exactly, But I remember when Mark or Jonathan said they had like 2 people doing balance? And only recently they're training 3 more or so?? I mean... it shows.

It might also show how weak the boss design is, but it's hard to tell when he does that much damage...


If beating bosses naked is "weak boss design" then every single Souls game has "weak boss design". I don't think many people will agree you on that.


Dark Soul is a mechanical skill oriented game

Path of Exile is a equipment and build oriented game

If the bosses can be trivialized by characters with literally no equipments, its either the build is broken OP or the bosses are too easy. For if this behavior is allowed then there would be zero point in farming and gearing your characters anymore. Just Lv1 0 equipment do everything.

Seems like both tbh.



well you can't really play most of the game like this because outside of boss fights it's impossible to avoid being hit.
Reaching 1-1.5 million DPS without using any items is illogical. Dude, I'm playing a level 85 wolf and my max DPS is 40,000... this game reeks of inequality from start to finish...
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MEITTI#3999 wrote:
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This just goes to show how well balanced the game is, yet again. I don't recall in which interview exactly, But I remember when Mark or Jonathan said they had like 2 people doing balance? And only recently they're training 3 more or so?? I mean... it shows.

It might also show how weak the boss design is, but it's hard to tell when he does that much damage...


If beating bosses naked is "weak boss design" then every single Souls game has "weak boss design". I don't think many people will agree you on that.


Can you tell the difference between this video https://youtu.be/_tOfAdBvQRQ?si=ea6aqQ38THx8BgWh and the path of exile one?

It's disgusting you even try to make the comparison.

Here's more https://youtu.be/zODF0z471Xc?si=sDnXlijMN2x_Dn2g
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Last edited by IonSugeRau1#1069 on Dec 31, 2025, 3:02:56 AM
Dont see any issue here other than maybe a skill thats a bit too strong. But doing arbiter without gear should be possible, maybe its a bit fast, but thats just a balance issue then.
The only problem I see here is that Arbiter is a shit fight that is best done by configuring the whole tree for damage and movement speed because most attacks are one-shots anyway.

I've done the fight once this league with my melee druid and probably won't do it again because it's just not fun and the loot is abysmally bad for such a difficult fight.
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JoTua#1329 wrote:
Reaching 1-1.5 million DPS without using any items is illogical. Dude, I'm playing a level 85 wolf and my max DPS is 40,000... this game reeks of inequality from start to finish...


If you tell the developers this a million times, I doubt they'll understand. It's in their blood to focus on new content rather than make the game playable....
Every single game out there with difficult bosses has people clearing them quickly with all sorts of handicaps, and being able to make weird setups that do a lot of damage is core to POE in general, so I don't really see the issue.

It's not as though this guy put 0 effort into his build and just did all that damage by accident, if anything it took a lot more knowledge and creativity to be able to make it, and enough skill to not get 1 shot by arbiter.

Arbiter fight definitely has some issues, but they have nothing to do with the video you posted, and just because you can't make your build work as well as you'd like doesn't mean other people aren't allowed to have fun.
Skill issue.... Find and destroy OP builds.

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