Is PoE2 even PoE?

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VoidWhisperer42#5989 wrote:

PoE2 has already self-financed

Yup. Now that PoE2 is so great and successful can we have the millions that got funneled straight from PoE1's revenue into the developement of PoE2?

We have been getting cut league content since literally Heist. Thanks to the development of PoE2.

Or are we gonna get another 11 months league?

Or another copypasted Keeper league?

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If GGG ever decided to stop supporting PoE1, it would be for their own reasons, whether that’s cost, time, or shifting focus to PoE2. If they make that decision, a revolt isn’t going to change it.

Just try. We'll see.

I can't believe that PoE died for this dogsh-t dark soulz hybrid rootless game that have the audacity to call itself "Path of Exile"-2.

complaining that a new installment is.. new. It's kinda wild tbh

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Critrionn#1931 wrote:

complaining that a new installment is.. new. It's kinda wild tbh

PoE is a flawed jewel, while Path of Dodge Roll is a vanity project run amok. =9[.]9=

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nagisanzeninzz#2697 wrote:

Yup. Now that PoE2 is so great and successful can we have the millions that got funneled straight from PoE1's revenue into the developement of PoE2?

We have been getting cut league content since literally Heist. Thanks to the development of PoE2.

Or are we gonna get another 11 months league?

Or another copypasted Keeper league?

Early access alone essentially covered its own costs.

We’re only approaching the halfway point of the current PoE league, so it doesn’t really feel like the right moment to already be asking for a new one.

Would I be opposed to another 11 month league? Honestly, not at all, especially if it meant more time invested into overall patch quality rather than rushing content out on a 2 month cycle just to satisfy instant gratification.

Speaking as a developer myself, dedicating 6 to 8 months of focused work to a single patch would almost certainly result in a noticeable increase in quality for obvious reasons. Of course, that approach would still frustrate a certain segment of the player base. In the end, there’s no real winning scenario for GGG. Faster releases tend to come with weaker patch quality, while slower releases, even when more polished, still upset those who want constant updates on the fly. You can’t please everyone after all.

I’m also not entirely sure what you’re referring to here. The past 5 years have delivered some of the strongest leagues in PoE’s entire history, with Settlers alone being a standout example. Because of that, it’s hard to see where this stance comes from, especially the passive hostility toward PoE2 and the assumption that its existence somehow made PoE1 patches worse. Realistically, there’s no way to know that, particularly when you’ve only been around for about 5 years and joined during the very league you now point to as the supposed downfall of PoE1.

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nagisanzeninzz#2697 wrote:

Just try. We'll see.
I can't believe that PoE died for this dogsh-t dark soulz hybrid rootless game that have the audacity to call itself "Path of Exile"-2.

I’m also not sure what source you’re using to claim the game has “died.” It’s still receiving league after league, and many of those have been largely well received, even with a comparatively shorter development cycle. That’s honestly impressive when you consider how much content they manage to push out in such a limited timeframe. If anything, it only reinforces the idea that things could be even better if the developers were given more time.

I also think there’s still a lot of confusion between what a soulslike actually is and what PoE2 aims to be. The two really aren’t the same, and the difference is night and day. If that distinction isn’t clear, it might be worth spending some time with an actual soulslike title to see how fundamentally different the design philosophies are.

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nagisanzeninzz#2697 wrote:

Just try. We'll see.

I can't believe that PoE died for this dogsh-t dark soulz hybrid rootless game that have the audacity to call itself "Path of Exile"-2.

I guarantee you don't have nearly the support you need to meaningfully effect GGG's bottom line in any way, nor do you have the support you need to even effect current PoE 1 players in any significant way.

If you revolt.....it will have all the effect of a feather brushing against an elephant.

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VoidWhisperer42#5989 wrote:

I’m also not entirely sure what you’re referring to here. The past 5 years have delivered some of the strongest leagues in PoE’s entire history,

Despite of all the money and resource being allocated to the development PoE2 AND the invasive of PoE2 new vision (starting from 3.15) that was aggressively pushed back by the community.

That's how good PoE1 is and how much better it could have been without PoE2.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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nagisanzeninzz#2697 wrote:

Just try. We'll see.

I can't believe that PoE died for this dogsh-t dark soulz hybrid rootless game that have the audacity to call itself "Path of Exile"-2.

I guarantee you don't have nearly the support you need to meaningfully effect GGG's bottom line in any way, nor do you have the support you need to even effect current PoE 1 players in any significant way.

If you revolt.....it will have all the effect of a feather brushing against an elephant.

We will see.

No....we don't have to see. We know. You think you're the first to hate something so vehemently that you talk about revolting and sticking it to the company?

This has happened on at least 3 separate occasions in the history of PoE 1, let alone PoE 2. And guess what? PoE 1 has more players now than it ever had before, and there was never even a blip in the lake.
1) Ex / Div switch
2) Revolt of the summoners
3) 3.14

So many threats of revolt and quitting from folks who thought they were in the majority only to be proven woefully wrong. And even some folks (i literally know them by forum name) who said over and over again for weeks or months that they quit and uninstalled the game over certain changes.....are back and still playing now.


The forum complainers are ALWAYS....always in the minority. And usually the extreme minority. It's a simple truth of forum use. The negatives are always highly vocal, but they rarely represent any real portion of the players. There's generally an equal amount of voices that feel the opposite, and then there's a HUGE amount of voices that don't care at all and aren't posting. THEY are the true majority: the ones that either just play and enjoy or have already quit and moved on.

Plus, your comment of "the game is dead" is very clearly a signal that you are certainly not speaking for anyone but yourself here. By the sheer simple fact that.....it isn't.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

No....we don't have to see. We know. You think you're the first to hate something so vehemently that you talk about revolting and sticking it to the company?

This has happened on at least 3 separate occasions in the history of PoE 1, let alone PoE 2. And guess what? PoE 1 has more players now than it ever had before, and there was never even a blip in the lake.
1) Ex / Div switch
2) Revolt of the summoners
3) 3.14

So many threats of revolt and quitting from folks who thought they were in the majority only to be proven woefully wrong. And even some folks (i literally know them by forum name) who said over and over again for weeks or months that they quit and uninstalled the game over certain changes.....are back and still playing now.


The forum complainers are ALWAYS....always in the minority. And usually the extreme minority. It's a simple truth of forum use. The negatives are always highly vocal, but they rarely represent any real portion of the players. There's generally an equal amount of voices that feel the opposite, and then there's a HUGE amount of voices that don't care at all and aren't posting. THEY are the true majority: the ones that either just play and enjoy or have already quit and moved on.

Plus, your comment of "the game is dead" is very clearly a signal that you are certainly not speaking for anyone but yourself here. By the sheer simple fact that.....it isn't.

If you "know" why do you have to convince me that there wouldn't be any meaningful outrage when they kill PoE or give us another steaming pile of garbage league?

You afraid of it or something?

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The forum complainers are ALWAYS....always in the minority. And usually the extreme minority. It's a simple truth of forum use. The negatives are always highly vocal, but they rarely represent any real portion of the players. There's generally an equal amount of voices that feel the opposite, and then there's a HUGE amount of voices that don't care at all and aren't posting. THEY are the true majority: the ones that either just play and enjoy or have already quit and moved on.

You seems to be highly vocal too, you're like the top 3 commenter in this thread lol. Are you also the minority that you're labelling? Do you even have any self-awareness?

"Any opinion that I don't agree is from the vocal minority :( :("

yes....I am also in the minority.

Everyone who posts on the forum are in the minority.

However, its far more likely that any POSITIVE feedback is going to be more representative of the majority of players. Because the ones playing the game are ultimately the ones who LIKE the game.

The majority who play simply don't care enough about anything to form any kind of opinion. They play and lose themselves for a few hours, and then move on. But they play because they like the game. They aren't playing because they hate it.


And no....its not "any opinion I disagree with". It's opinions with are overtly negative with no substantive evidence to back up wide sweeping comments of being representative of a much larger group.

I've been swayed in arguments before, but it certainly won't happen here with the way you present your arguments and responses.


Delusional feelings of "power" or "control" over the developers of the game and the future of the game is hilarious to read.