Online status on trade is stuck in 'Fetching' mode
" Isn't that a bit like asserting that no vegans exist because none of the people you saw buying steaks said they were one? The change is rather unambiguously focused on people who only invest serious playtime into the current challenge league of the day (which I understand to be a significant majority), and their preference for only seeing listings from people actively online and in that league. I've had my own fair share of experiences where I message someone expecting an ~instant invite, get told to wait five minutes, periodically /whois them to see they're still in, say, Uber Lab - and then after seeing them in their Hideout, I get "oops, forgot, sorry" from the person who's back in Uber Lab and has no intention of trading with me until they finish it ~20 minutes later. The more inconvenient it is for a person to trade, the slower (and less willing) they become to do so. I don't envy Novynn and GGG more broadly the predicament. I do think I lean in favour of their present position on it, though - namely to prioritise the people they know to be in a league and trying to trade in it over the people who listed an item once upon at a time with a presumably genuine intention of trading if messaged from someone out-of-league, only to later find themselves being in the middle of something and really can't be bothered to relog. It's rough that this change means taking something away that people have come to rely upon - but the absolute best case scenario of someone in a permanent league logging out and back in is still slower and less convenient than someone in-league, and with how often it was anything other than the best case scenario, I don't in any way doubt Novynn when he says they received substantial feedback that people were fed up. While I appreciate the depth of feeling on the matter, I don't know that I've seen a single person arguing for the change to be reverted stop and consider others' perspective - you won't convince GGG by arguing that all Standard players hate the change; they knew that would be the case prior to implementing it. Their perception was almost certainly that the tools as-available allowed a minority (in good faith) to worsen the experience of the majority - were they truly wrong? GGG do not offer first-party Technical Support.
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" I don't think you understood the matter correctly so let me explain in more detail. Prior to 3.27 you were able to whisper people in both leagues if and only if they went to the trade site settings and opted into being visible in both leagues. The vast majority of players had no interest in opting in and did not do so. Some small percentage of players might have opted in but later down the line decided to not opt-out again and got annoyed by the setting they themselves did on the trade site. Instead of defaulting everyone back to that setting periodically, or applying it dynamically GGG decided to take the setting away at all causing major problems to people who explicitly opted into being seen in both leagues and were fine with logging for trades. the comparison is "some guys told me they are vegan and don't like steak so we won't sell any steak in our butchery shop anymore even though many customers did reservations for the coming weeks." Last edited by Jix#7520 on Dec 3, 2025, 10:56:53 AM
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As one of the larger Mirror services this is vary discouraging. I run The Igloo shop, The standard Settler shop and some of the MfAcademy shop.
We work to make free to Low fee items for the community and this includes standard. So while im in league helping the settle shop the items i have up for service in standard wont show as online? I do not understand why you guys would do this and i did not even know this happened let alone this large amount of people who wanted this. If this is not an API issue thats overloading the system i don't understand why you guys would make this change. there has to be a different solution please revert this change it makes things harder and worse for the community. |
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" Respectfully, it is you that isn't understanding what the other is saying. " That analogy doesn't work. The vegans are the minority demanding accommodation. That is YOUR side in this. GGG do not offer first-party Technical Support.
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This is such a retarded change.
I play standard only, and I absolutely prefer being able to pick and choose how I want to use the trade site. You're taking away a large trading QOL for A LOT of players who play both std & league, while giving nothing in return. Allow us to pick between async and in-person, but ALSO to choose whether we want to see people online in the other league or not. How is this even a debate? |
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Last edited by huckledeluxe#0293 on Dec 3, 2025, 2:20:12 PM
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" what a about mirrors shops? i know a lot of people with 1 or 2 mirror items that also play league. These are VERY dedicated players who play all league and are going to be loosing a huge amount of money by not having that exposure on std while playing league PLEASE GGG rethink this change !! if nothing else look at the amount of supporter packs that the people asking for this to be changed back have. or make a exception for rare items listed for 1 mirror or make it so that you can make a forum post to show on std while playing league that way only people who go thue hassle of making a forum post will have there items show wile playing league. Last edited by huckledeluxe#0293 on Dec 3, 2025, 2:27:01 PM
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This is a very weird change.
If you wanted to do a service to anyone who couldn't make a successful trade with someone else in a different league, you could've very well just let a script handle that and turn it off on those accounts who notoriously won't relog. X requests over Y timespan without logging over- the setting gets disabled. Resetting this at the start of a league is also a possibility i guess. This change might reduce the quantity of people who got frustrated before this change, but now it introduces a frustrational situation of much larger scale. |
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" As you can see by reading all the replies in this thread this change mostly affects people who have items listed for mirror service. Untill you come up with async solution for mirror service an easy fix to this would be - to allow all mirrorable items listed for ~price 1 mirror to appear in both leagues. boom. easy fix. everyone is happy. |
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" No, that's not a really a fix and it certainly wouldn't make me happy. I have tons of stuff that I actively want to sell that is listed above or below 1 mirror. They just need to revert this change altogether. |
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