Fortress pulse-explosion

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 wrote:

A much better test of this would be something like what I did, which is run a fortress in a map with the Profane prefix (monsters apply wither on hit). Wither is unmistakable because it has a debuff icon at the top of the screen, and cannot be naturally inflicted by any kind of damage. And guess what?

The pulses don't apply wither.

Just got a fortress with 'Monsters inflict Wither on hit' and for me the Pulses did inflict Wither.

So Im unaware of proper evidence suggesting that (any) monster mods do not affect the pulse.
=> Working hypothesis is that all monster mods affect the pulse.

what does it matter, when they do almost no damage baseline. The only builds that may suffer would be an es build with no good recovery. then thats your fault anyways

I randomly got one shot in a fortress exiting. Is this why? I was at full life + ES and then the next second, I'm dead with no idea what happened. This sounds like why, but it's my fault for deciding this fortress was too easy so let me go duel a rare instead of GTHO.

It was one time though, generally, leaving isn't a big deal.

how is this thread still going?

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

how is this thread still going?

Because people can get randomly oneshot by this since its affected by map mods when it shouldn't be.

Not everyone is running around on a mageblood build with max suppress,block,max res,15k es and whatever else. Can't just assume everyone plays the best most expensive meta builds that can facetank all content in the game.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

how is this thread still going?

Because people can get randomly oneshot by this since its affected by map mods when it shouldn't be.

Not everyone is running around on a mageblood build with max suppress,block,max res,15k es and whatever else. Can't just assume everyone plays the best most expensive meta builds that can facetank all content in the game.

correction: people who don't build appropriate defence for the difficulty of content they are running can be oneshot.

that's why there's only a few people complaining about it. most people play proper builds.

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

correction: people who don't build appropriate defence for the difficulty of content they are running can be oneshot.

that's why there's only a few people complaining about it. most people play proper builds.

It is literally impossible to "just build defence" on some builds. And the gear can be expensive af too.

Most people also don't even use this forum, the only real stats we can get is with an in-game poll. And GGG probably have the stats of how many people get oneshot by the hive pulse in red maps from like 50-60% hp to 0.

The meta mageblood expensive builds that the top 1% play do not reflect what the majority of players play.

I don't care about your excuses. There's you and the new guy who necro'd the thread who'd be undergeared for SSF at this point of the league complaining while everyone else is fine. If it really was an issue we'd see way more complaints and not just here but on Reddit too.

It's not an issue, and you don't need Mageblood to make a good build. Mageblood is a crutch.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

correction: people who don't build appropriate defence for the difficulty of content they are running can be oneshot.

that's why there's only a few people complaining about it. most people play proper builds.

It is literally impossible to "just build defence" on some builds. And the gear can be expensive af too.

Most people also don't even use this forum, the only real stats we can get is with an in-game poll. And GGG probably have the stats of how many people get oneshot by the hive pulse in red maps from like 50-60% hp to 0.

The meta mageblood expensive builds that the top 1% play do not reflect what the majority of players play.

I already proved that I can tank these on an otherwise moderately geared character wearing veil of the night. As in, literally zero elemental resistances for something which deals primarily elemental damage. No mageblood, under 10k armor, no ES stacking... just a character which isn't garbage.

The game isn't, can't be, and shouldn't be balanced around the bottom five percent.
There's no conversation to be had here, your build isn't good enough if these are killing you, full stop, /thread.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

how is this thread still going?

Because people can get randomly oneshot by this since its affected by map mods when it shouldn't be.

Not everyone is running around on a mageblood build with max suppress,block,max res,15k es and whatever else. Can't just assume everyone plays the best most expensive meta builds that can facetank all content in the game.

1. My build has 0 suppress, and is dual wielding.

2. Run content your build can handle, or make a better build.

3. Stop insulting my build. I am 21k ES