This was the worst update in the short history of Path of Exile II

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intersept#1235 wrote:

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No one is complaining about towers.

that is untrue.

we knew towers were bad.
we knew towers were a place holder.
we knew towers (sextants) were taken away from poe1 for a reason. (we complained about them)

we did want them gone. as a collective community.

rest of your post is fine tho.

I'm fine with the way tablets work now, what I absolutely don't like is that the symbols that show what type of additional content is on a certain map are gone.

I also think that the symbols for the rares should've stayed, but at the very least there should be a second counter that shows how many of those buggers are still left. It's worth going back for a rare, but not for normal mobs, so that info would be good.

Towers were a huge problem and needed to be removed.

Bosses on every map were a complaint in 0.1 when there was nothing to do and no rare icons existed on the map. They fixed this and I stopped seeing complaints about wanting bosses on every map. The complaint was that Rares being the only completion goal every single map was boring. They didn't fix that, they just replaced Rares with Boss.

The whole endgame atlas is a placeholder. They stated such before 0.1 came out. They threw it together and they tried to bandaid it over the last 9 months to make this idea work. It doesn't. 0.4 needs to replace it entirely. 0.3.1 was(I think) a patch to move towards this goal and get the players used to a different way of playing endgame. That way being to put tablets in with each map, and that content will generate randomly in addition to tablets.

The boss change doesn't make sense, the evasion change doesn't make sense...most of their balance changes don't usually make sense, though. Hopefully they work it all out by 0.4. I'm just glad I finished with the season before this patch.

So many people here are either disingenious on purpose or just straight up stupid. No one complained about the tower change in and of itself. The thing people are complaining about is the Quantity nerf overall, the fact that you're now forced to kill bosses in every map and the fact that GGG is still sticking to their 0 portal bullshit.

PoE 2 Softcore is basically just a slightly nerfed version of HC in disguise, something most people didn't sign up for. They need to drop this stupid design philosophy and just go back to the old 6 portal system. It really baffles me how GGG is unable to figure out something so simple even a toddler would be able to get it.

This whole endgame system is bonked. Why the fuck are we still using IIR and IIQ, GGG?

What now? Are you going to buff tablets to grant 20+ IIQ per? Don't you see that you are slowly reintroducing poe1's failed loot system?

You were meant to create something new, innovative, not rehash antiquated systems ad infinitum.

Don't you dare listen to all these retards. Sit down and come up with something that is actually new, or you're literally no better than d4 developers.

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Rishon#0212 wrote:

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MedianSpider666#6485 wrote:

People were loud that they want more bosses and towers removed, so they removed. Seems loud people are not the majority of players base...

Brother, to be honest, to this day I never even considered towers a problem.
I can't imagine why would anyone have any problems with towers. Who are these people?

Everything in this patch looks to me so unnecessary, and brother, I play this game a lot, i mean, A LOT.

They weren't a problem. The only people who cared were min/maxers that were upset that they couldn't get super juice on every single piece of content they did. They're also a very vocal minority.

I loved the tower system. I think it needed some minor tweaks, but removal is the wrong direction.

GGG needs to take some notes on community feedback from EHG (Last Epoch devs) and run polls. Gather feedback in a structured, public manner, instead of spontaneously reacting to the vocal minority.

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Polantaris#1920 wrote:

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Rishon#0212 wrote:

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MedianSpider666#6485 wrote:

People were loud that they want more bosses and towers removed, so they removed. Seems loud people are not the majority of players base...

Brother, to be honest, to this day I never even considered towers a problem.
I can't imagine why would anyone have any problems with towers. Who are these people?

Everything in this patch looks to me so unnecessary, and brother, I play this game a lot, i mean, A LOT.

They weren't a problem. The only people who cared were min/maxers that were upset that they couldn't get super juice on every single piece of content they did. They're also a very vocal minority.

I loved the tower system. I think it needed some minor tweaks, but removal is the wrong direction.

GGG needs to take some notes on community feedback from EHG (Last Epoch devs) and run polls. Gather feedback in a structured, public manner, instead of spontaneously reacting to the vocal minority.

eh... while im all for transparency... ive never been a fan of game dev's literally letting a poll that can be botted or worded to guide awnsers.... deciding whole game directions.

i believe ehg puts this to the extreme.. and its not good for them. they have a poll for like....everything. and these polls become echo chambers like reddit. or twitter. or bluesky. mostly because, the polls are mostly asnwered by the people so insanely plugged into the game... that it leaves out the will of the casual player, or player who played, maybe didnt like some things and put it off to the side.... basically leaving out the opinions of players who arent reading the main page screen when you open steam/the game/etc every day 5 times, or reading the insane sized patch notes the games like LE and poe have. it is not REALLY a true indication of your whole playerbase.

imo. forums, discussion, comments on interviews/news... hell.. as much as its cringe watching socially inept egomaniac streamers interview ggg, that even has its place with comments to review on youtube/etc... are far more direct, and wide spread... giving you a more accurate view in total of a topic/will of the customer.

and imo. gamers SHOULDNT be in control of every decision the game dev's are making.

i wouldnt tell a 5 star chef what his dish is missing.
i wouldnt tell a mechanic that certain nuts and bolts need to be tighter or not.
and i wouldnt want to awnser poll after poll telling a middle manager game company employee, how to direct every decision the game makes.

giving critical feedback on certain things. sure. maybe even praise.

but im not trying to be that guy.... the we all know one of at least in our life... and probably more on places like this forum...

that would literally love... to tell a doctor how to perform their own proceedure.

would i tell the docotr their an idiot for poking a vien, and spurtting blood everywhere. sure. but im not awnsering a poll from the nurse, on IF HE SHOULD HAVE TRIED TO POKE MY VIEN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

hope that come out how i wanted it. i tried.

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Polantaris#1920 wrote:

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Rishon#0212 wrote:

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MedianSpider666#6485 wrote:

People were loud that they want more bosses and towers removed, so they removed. Seems loud people are not the majority of players base...

Brother, to be honest, to this day I never even considered towers a problem.
I can't imagine why would anyone have any problems with towers. Who are these people?

Everything in this patch looks to me so unnecessary, and brother, I play this game a lot, i mean, A LOT.

They weren't a problem. The only people who cared were min/maxers that were upset that they couldn't get super juice on every single piece of content they did. They're also a very vocal minority.

I loved the tower system. I think it needed some minor tweaks, but removal is the wrong direction.

GGG needs to take some notes on community feedback from EHG (Last Epoch devs) and run polls. Gather feedback in a structured, public manner, instead of spontaneously reacting to the vocal minority.

Ofc everyone was crapping on towers, just put "poe2 towers" in yt, here first from top:
https://youtube.com/shorts/I_kNAIqxIaI

I didn't think they were a problem, you also, I'm surprised there are people like that, but majority did, esp on yt. I didn't speak out because I trusted others, mostly from poe1, are more experienced than me, so we will get smth good for sure. What we got I feel is terrible though

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Innuendos#5095 wrote:

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Alzucard#2422 wrote:

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MedianSpider666#6485 wrote:

People were loud that they want more bosses and towers removed, so they removed. Seems loud people are not the majority of players base...

I dont mind either actually. There or not there. Doesnt make much difference to me.

i might need glasses. but i still saw towers after this patch.

they are not gone. they are very much in the game.

the function may be different. but they are still there.

i dont remember people asking for more bosses. and if you did want more bosses, you could tablet them in... adding to the already previously spawned boss nodes randomly scattered everywhere.

there very much were boss farming strats in poe2 previous to this patch. with tablets giving rarity to map bosses... wisps... stacking +mods on them...

i actually was doing wisp/esse/boss +mod for about 6 towers before this patch hit...

now? not so much. and what is left of that strat... is significantly reduced.

so ya. iunno what loud people you are talking about.
or what people were screaming for more bosses...

at all.

we did want towers gone tho... they gave us scarabs instead of sextants(towers) is that the right call... who knows. but its the reason of the poe 2 is just poe 1 crowd.... is getting LOUDER AND LOUDER ... cuz its true.


abyss. - slightly reworked ... poe 1
towers (sextants) - poe 1
corruption nodes - scourge from poe 1 without the story.. even copied the same npcs.
scarabs (new precursors) - poe 1
citadels - are just different pinnacle poe 1 bosses realistically.
unique maps? - most of them are from poe 1.
map device? - now exactly looks like poe 1's mapdevice and functions the same.
act 4? is basically a reskinned town we ... already built. in POE 1.
sekhamas - poe 1
chaos trial - some changes but. poe 1.

and the next league.. will almost garenteed be something from poe1. either reworked, or straight up copied. (my guess, is blight, to somehow replace the abbyssal mod's power in crafting, because it pretty damn clear, they dont know what they want to do yet for crafting.)

People were asking for bosses, if not this patch then the previous one, I don't remember, but I remember ggg saying their end goal is to have bosses on all maps, so they delivered.

But I like what you're saying, especially the comparison to poe1. I'm not from poe1 so seeing that this game is not so original that I thought, and the direction it's heading, feels so disappointing...

I was enjoying the game until now, where I die a lot at bosses. I don't care dying, but what's the point of playing if I won't level up anymore?