QOLs BINGO card for Mark

Hello,
Would this be worthy of Mark's review?
Should we (player base) push for these changes?


Thanks,

One imagines if this ever happened it'd be disabled in Hardcore?

Honestly, with the death penalty being such a big deal at high levels (say, 98), I wouldn't be entirely shocked if it was just disabled past a certain level as well. At which point, it's so inconsistent and thus unreliable, it's probably best it isn't implemented at all...

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Sarno#0493 wrote:

One imagines if this ever happened it'd be disabled in Hardcore?

Honestly, with the death penalty being such a big deal at high levels (say, 98), I wouldn't be entirely shocked if it was just disabled past a certain level as well. At which point, it's so inconsistent and thus unreliable, it's probably best it isn't implemented at all...

The game is not balanced around hardcore. Why would they choose a point in time in 2025 to change the way they do things.

If they balanced the game around hcssf then i would be ok with this balancing factor.

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Sarno#0493 wrote:

One imagines if this ever happened it'd be disabled in Hardcore?

Honestly, with the death penalty being such a big deal at high levels (say, 98), I wouldn't be entirely shocked if it was just disabled past a certain level as well. At which point, it's so inconsistent and thus unreliable, it's probably best it isn't implemented at all...

We already have hit ESC to pause the game in PoE 2. All it does is pause. Resume the game and it just resumes. Exactly where you were. It is no get out of jail free card. So no need to disable it in HC. Even if one gets out of the game, one would resume again at the exact same point and place in time. One would have to wait ages for the instance to reset..... ;)

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Lonnie455Rich#2087 wrote:

The game is not balanced around hardcore. Why would they choose a point in time in 2025 to change the way they do things.

I'm not entirely clear. Are you in favour of this particular suggestion?

It's just that "Why would they choose a point in time in 2025 to change the way they do things" is a weird apparent argument in favour of them adding pause functionality to a game that's never had it before. I'm not trying to hit you with a cheap "gotcha"; just genuinely not following you.

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xjjanie#4242 wrote:

We already have hit ESC to pause the game in PoE 2. All it does is pause. Resume the game and it just resumes. Exactly where you were. It is no get out of jail free card.

Path of Exile Too is it's own thing and I'm happy for Grinding Gear Games to use an Early Access period to try to figure out what exactly they're trying to have the game become.

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My (thankfully non-Hardcore) SSF Ruthless Occultist died in Merc Lab a couple of days ago. I had the... dubious satisfaction of watching a DoT-laden Izaro dying right alongside her. I'd been right next to him, and he went to use what the wiki calls "Ground Slam".

It hadn't been my first attempt at Merc Lab, this particular attempt had been a particularly lucky one, and I had genuinely started to believe that it was The One™. I saw his anticipation animation warning me of what was to come and I immediately knew I could not get hit by that and expect to survive. I panicked at the thought of having come so close only to die right at the last instant.

I went to Quickstep, mistakenly hit the wrong keybind, and my character stopped moving to fecklessly Essence Drain a nearby wall. Izaro finished using his ability, my Occultist went from being a character to being a mere floor decoration, and I then suffered the ignominy of watching Izaro go and die - with his final breath, he congratulated my corpse on an alleged victory.

Now, it was a good death - don't get me wrong. It wasn't a lag spike or a client crash or something. But playing through Lab on each underlevelled attempt had been a struggle and that death came as a rather bitter pill to swallow considering how close I had been. I died because I was tired; I went to use another character's movement skill keybind in error, and my misplay had consequences.

Had there been a pause button, I would've slammed it with sufficient force to likely crack my keyboard. I'd have weighed up options such as using Quickstep or just walking away and popping a Quicksilver Flask (no jokes about my two seconds of magic, please - yes Quicksilver flasks are all but worthless in Ruthless, and, yes - I cling to having one equipped at all times regardless).

I would have used this god-like power to stop and consider my options. To look down (without losing sight of what was happening in the game world) to cross-reference the locations of my hands over my keyboard. To review this specific character's keybindings just to make absolutely certain.

It may be no get out of jail free card, but it is obscenely overpowered and I object to its late inclusion in Path of Exile when the game has, to-date, been designed and balanced around its exclusion and the assumption that the moment-to-moment gameplay has more consequences than that.


tl;dr: Give me a tool and I'll use it. Of course I will. I am a gamer. Number must go up. I must do as well as I can compared with other players. But I am much more content with my good death caused by my own ineptitude than I would have been with an undeserved win cheapening the experience.

I object to a pause button in PoE 1. I may have preferred the game with one, had it been implemented in or prior to 2013's v1.0. But don't go shoehorning one in at this late stage.

Do you guys actually know how the game bingo works and what bingo cards are for?

You don't put things you want on the cards.You put things you think will happen.

You can make a logout macro, it really makes no sense in that context. As long as you cant pause in pinnacle bosses to get longer perception on your arena.

GGG doesn't balance the game in any way shape or form considering the experience of hc players. The game is balanced for sc and however it works out for hc players it just does. After they launch the patch if there are things that are completely bs for hc players they may adjust it a bit, but they never consider it when making something.

So if you apply that logic to the pause function then you would assume they would completely ignore any functionality that would benefit hc more than sc. Which it wouldn't if you deal with pinnacle boss pausing and just make it not work like in poe2. pausing in regular content has no real benefit over a logout macro. In hc you aren't using all 6 of your portals anyways. if you are you are in the wrong content. (other than ubers) Usually once you logout macro once inside of an instance, you will either just give up on it or try 1-2 more times at most. Also reentering boss arenas after logging out is really sketchy with stuff like invisible ground degens and invisible shaper beams.

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 wrote:

Do you guys actually know how the game bingo works and what bingo cards are for?

You don't put things you want on the cards.You put things you think will happen.

Sorry buddy.....this is exactly NOT how the game BINGO works lol. Neither the original game BINGO, nor the way BINGO is used in this setting.

First of all in traditional BINGO....you don't put things you want OR think will happen. A bingo card comes pre-made with random numbers from 1 to 75. And every number has an EQUAL chance of being called. There is no "think will happen" about the game BINGO.

So how they use their bingo card here is perfectly fine: because we have no idea AT ALL what may or may not happen, what is randomly generated and what isn't, and the likelihood of any one thing happening.

And BINGO cards that are made like this....quite literally all the time across any subject, are ALWAYS made like this: the person creates their own bingo card of things, totally unrelated to "likelihood". How the hell would they know what is "likely"? That's sort of the entire point of the BINGO card: to see if ANYTHING on there ends up happening. It is 100% generated by what the bingo card creator WANTS to see (or even specifically DOESN'T want to see).

You are just plain, dead wrong here trying to "gacha" the OP for some weird reason. And frankly....I find it hard to believe that you don't KNOW your post was unnecessarily petty (and wrong). Perhaps a case of being tired and not giving yourself the good old "should i post this?" double check.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 wrote:

Do you guys actually know how the game bingo works and what bingo cards are for?

You don't put things you want on the cards.You put things you think will happen.

Sorry buddy.....this is exactly NOT how the game BINGO works lol. Neither the original game BINGO, nor the way BINGO is used in this setting.

First of all in traditional BINGO....you don't put things you want OR think will happen. A bingo card comes pre-made with random numbers from 1 to 75. And every number has an EQUAL chance of being called. There is no "think will happen" about the game BINGO.

So how they use their bingo card here is perfectly fine: because we have no idea AT ALL what may or may not happen, what is randomly generated and what isn't, and the likelihood of any one thing happening.

And BINGO cards that are made like this....quite literally all the time across any subject, are ALWAYS made like this: the person creates their own bingo card of things, totally unrelated to "likelihood". How the hell would they know what is "likely"? That's sort of the entire point of the BINGO card: to see if ANYTHING on there ends up happening. It is 100% generated by what the bingo card creator WANTS to see (or even specifically DOESN'T want to see).

You are just plain, dead wrong here trying to "gacha" the OP for some weird reason. And frankly....I find it hard to believe that you don't KNOW your post was unnecessarily petty (and wrong). Perhaps a case of being tired and not giving yourself the good old "should i post this?" double check.

Thank you!

My post is aspirational, and I made it because Mark, in a discussion with Zizaran, has stated, "This is the best form of feedback that I could receive." The podcast is from 27th March 2024 not sure if I am allowed to post links

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 wrote:

Do you guys actually know how the game bingo works and what bingo cards are for?

You don't put things you want on the cards.You put things you think will happen.

Sorry buddy.....this is exactly NOT how the game BINGO works lol. Neither the original game BINGO, nor the way BINGO is used in this setting.

First of all in traditional BINGO....you don't put things you want OR think will happen. A bingo card comes pre-made with random numbers from 1 to 75. And every number has an EQUAL chance of being called. There is no "think will happen" about the game BINGO.

So how they use their bingo card here is perfectly fine: because we have no idea AT ALL what may or may not happen, what is randomly generated and what isn't, and the likelihood of any one thing happening.

And BINGO cards that are made like this....quite literally all the time across any subject, are ALWAYS made like this: the person creates their own bingo card of things, totally unrelated to "likelihood". How the hell would they know what is "likely"? That's sort of the entire point of the BINGO card: to see if ANYTHING on there ends up happening. It is 100% generated by what the bingo card creator WANTS to see (or even specifically DOESN'T want to see).

You are just plain, dead wrong here trying to "gacha" the OP for some weird reason. And frankly....I find it hard to believe that you don't KNOW your post was unnecessarily petty (and wrong). Perhaps a case of being tired and not giving yourself the good old "should i post this?" double check.

Wrong.

OP is posting a wish list, which is not a bingo card and is not used the same way.

In the original version of bingo, you have no control over what numbers are on your card, but obviously we're talking about bingo cards as used in pop culture and specifically the PoE subreddit. And in those games, you make a winning card out of things you expect to see so that you can fill out your card and win the game.

That's literally the whole point of the cards: as a way of jokingly predicting the future. Sort of a good-natured passive aggression.

It's why the bingo cards on the subreddit usually contain contradictory squares, such as "mechanic too rewarding" and "mechanic unrewarding." These aren't aspirational targets, they're just posts which are guaranteed to surface within the first 24 hours of every major league launching.

You should really take your own advice as spelled out in the last paragraph of your post.