Nothing can save 0.2 update anymore
" There is nothing toxic in my opinion. I dont see any sign of your financial support to feel as I did. Basically cheated by changes made that destroyed the game you loved and the reason for the support I gave GGG. The rug was yanked out from a lot of people. Toxic I think not. How about putting your money where your mouth is? Here is your moment to throw EA in my face. Dont change the situation or the feelings any. Last edited by rhalbhub#0570 on Apr 30, 2025, 2:20:53 PM
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Just for some clarity, it's vapid takes like these that contribute absolutely nothing and doesn't make them fact, no matter how much fervor or relentlessly you say it.
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" or.... it is that GGG is smart dev that have been here for over 11 years and made error and fixes and they know exactly what their players like and dislike and they know exactly why poe 1 is a success .... so no more words need to be explained? you want to see it as toxic but i see you as the toxic one.. becuse in my view there are not small stuff to change in poe 2 to make it good game.. the issues with PoE 2 are deep and fundamental from how loot works from rarity from maps design and map size from the concept of "constant challenge" from speed and clunky of skills.. there isnt really a list of suggestions that suddenly gonna make poe 2 a good game.. because the very core of the game is just bad with no potential to be good .. poe is trying to be different than poe 1 at any cost even where systems in poe 1 are perfection and there can not be any better.. . small changes to poe 2 atlass passive tree aint gonna make it good for endgame.. meanwhile poe 1 atlass passive tree is by far the best addition added to any game that ever created.. GGG insisting that everything must be different than poe 1 cost them. .. GGG already have so many years of experience and feedback they dont need me to tell them that the huge and shitty layouts maps are unfun.. they know that.. they dont need me to tell them Rarity is .......... they alreayd know that.. . ill remind you there was 1 league whre rarity directly affected currency tier from rare monsters it was archnemesis ... go search how that league went.. league later this was gone. . then quantity impacted currency and that has been removed aswell. .. what did they think people will feel about it in poe 2? poe 2 isnt bad because some lack of balance or some stuff that GGG can improve.. poe 2 is bad becuse of intentional decision GGG made to make the game different than poe 1 in every possible way.. at any cost.. intentional decision that the maps must be huge and bad layout that the game has to be slow and campain has to be 30 hours. . .. . does GGG knows how to make a game good? yes poe 1 is a prof to that. . so yes poe 2 bad poe 1 good if poe 2 is more like poe 1 it will not be bad.. |
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" Well I mean, of course he could elaborate more but he's still not wrong. I dont necessarilly want to play poe 1.5 but there are some things that are very clear people do not like, and some issues that did were solved or didn't exist in poe 1 that for some reason made their way into poe 2 and are taking forever to be adressed. To be honest I think the game is quite ok(-ish) in campain + early maps but everything after that is out of whack. Just to take one (out of many) exemple: map size. It takes a long time to travel around the atlas and it's pretty clear that people prefer simple map layouts. Intricate, labyrinth type layouts are fine during the campain, but they make no sense at all for late game. We are not playing a Dark souls game here, intricate layouts serve litteraly no purpose if there is nothing to find, no secrets or unique item you could discover searching nooks and crannies. Map grinding is repetitive, but that doesn't mean it can't be fun, people will do this for dozens if not hundreds of hours per league in poe 1, if it's quick, snappy and with lots of monsters to kill and loot to pick up. Getting lost and backtracking around mazes serve absolutely no purpose and is not fun at all if you know there really isn't anything to be found and you'll have to do this dozens of times just to reach enough towers or corruption nexus At this point it doesn't feel like you are playing a game for fun as much as you are doing some pointless boring chore. These are the moments you realize you'd actually be less bored vaccuming the floor or cleaning the toilets or something. Last edited by LFA01#0120 on Apr 30, 2025, 2:54:00 PM
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" It's quite the talent you have saying so much and so little at the same time. I'll attempt to deal with the basis of your flawed reasoning, " There are a lot of similarities and there are a lot of differences but the degree of similarity a game has with PoE1, or any game for that matter, is not an objective metric because every game is flawed in some measure. There are objective measures you could use to determine the quality of a game, such as balance, performance, or slightly more ambiguously storytelling, but these sweeping inherent claims you're making about what's good and what's bad, without including any qualifiers, diminishes your arguments. The conversation here has transcended PoE now because the way you're presenting your opinions is very undisciplined. You don't strike me as someone trying to give feedback in good faith or have an honest disagreement with others. You clearly have an axe to grind because you didn't get the game that you want. I think the sooner you accept the fact that the development progress of PoE2 is out of your control, the less emotionally charged and more substantive you can contribute. Your opinion isn't right or wrong, but it absolutely is an opinion. |
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" campain was fine the first time i played. .. but considering how long and slow the campain is. . do you really want to do it all over again every 3 months? do you think you will still enjoy this poe 2 campain at the time 1k that you do it? personally i dont |
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"You want PoE2? Take it. It's yours. But the Forum? I will burn to the ground.
Perhaps the suffering of my fellow citizens will finally stir something." - Exile, the Awakener of Feedback [Removed by Support]
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" To be honest I'd probably be a-ok with it as long as we get the real act 4-6, a small boost to move speed and probably a lot (and I mean a LOT) more loot in campain. I can understand that some people still wouldn't like it and I'd understand why, as far as I'm concerned it wouldn't be a problem for me. For me the real problem is that the atlas progression and late game grind are extremely boring and really not worth putting time into at the moment. That was somewhat fine for an EA launch but at this point it seems like developpement is incredibly slow and even best case scenario it will apparently take a LONG time until the game becomes "late-game-viable". |
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"When we finished developing 3.0, we knew we couldn't extend path of exile campaign forever, adding more acts will make the game just too long before players got to maps"... "for years now we've been wanting to make a sequel to path of exile. The problem with that though is that sequels split a community between two products it's also hard for a sequel to compete with the amount of content and features that the original game has. We've just spent six years making expansions for path of exile, so imagine if we released path of exile 2 and it was just a bare campaign with none of that extra content. This would be a sad shell of an action RPG compared to the current state of path of exile."
~Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019 Official PoE 2 Announcement. "We've just spent six years making expansions for path of exile, so imagine if we released path of exile 2 and it was just a bare campaign with none of that extra content. This would be a sad shell of an action RPG compared to the current state of path of exile."
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"A major flaw of the campaign is that you don't have mechanics in it. Rituals? One. (with cruel repeat two) Expeditions? None. Breaches? None. Essences? Basically none. Rogue Exiles? The same. Delirium? Nope. Like... they don't even introduce stuff to you until maps. And then, for what are we grinding anyway? For the nerfed pinnacle boss uniques? For a crafting project? Pfff. For min/maxing or another character? [Removed by Support]
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