If players want a better game...
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The only thing worse than a bunch of gamers with complaints is somebody whining about the whiners. Live and let live.
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" People are good at noticing they're not having fun, but many can't put into words why it is so. The result is the outcry being seen. All I would ask of people who continue saying they are fed up with the game, to post their builds. What were they doing that was so unbearable? I'd say 90% are trash builds, while 10% are real builds that hit real balance problems. Impatience is insatiable. Last edited by Gorbarr#2442 on Apr 7, 2025, 1:29:09 AM
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" hm..example? "PoE1 Clone Has No Future!" ;) | EA 0.2 | Trade is EZ mode. ;) | Path of Trading ;) | "TLDR: -1 Devs ohhh" (Lol.) | "I've played a lot of videogames. It's my primary recreational activity. Best games ever: Elden Ring and Diablo 4." ~Elon Musk, 2023 | "Dawg", "IQ 48" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | [Removed by Support]
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" This was suggested earlier...but I think it's wishful thinking... Would be a nice feature though..lol "PoE1 Clone Has No Future!" ;) | EA 0.2 | Trade is EZ mode. ;) | Path of Trading ;) | "TLDR: -1 Devs ohhh" (Lol.) | "I've played a lot of videogames. It's my primary recreational activity. Best games ever: Elden Ring and Diablo 4." ~Elon Musk, 2023 | "Dawg", "IQ 48" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | [Removed by Support]
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" You're not wrong. It's just the correct word for it. When people are talking 'politics' and it's getting heated, and fights break out. Like is very common. That's narcissistic traits being triggered. Usually as a defense mechanism because their identity is being threatened, challenged. It's a problem because it's all been played down. It's excused away as someone just being passionate. A 'drama queen'. A 'little difficult'. or 'stubborn' an 'elitist' It's because it goes unchecked. No one confronts them, they never experience a consequence for the way they act. If you want, you can PM me and I can tear down some comments so you can see how. |
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Ya, just my "perspective" :P
I get your enthusiasm for that topic lol -- I'm not saying you're wrong on that -- it's just I prefer to view it "my way" ;) Nah, all good bro.. I mean these EA Forums are fine ;) "PoE1 Clone Has No Future!" ;) | EA 0.2 | Trade is EZ mode. ;) | Path of Trading ;) | "TLDR: -1 Devs ohhh" (Lol.) | "I've played a lot of videogames. It's my primary recreational activity. Best games ever: Elden Ring and Diablo 4." ~Elon Musk, 2023 | "Dawg", "IQ 48" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | [Removed by Support] Last edited by chobo999#2010 on Apr 7, 2025, 2:09:19 AM
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" Fair enough. I just know that it goes largely unchecked here. Awareness can help, but it seems the mods would rather just remove the message. Anyways. They are fine. Quite fine. |
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The real issue is that you have 3 problems
The POE1 speed freaks who just want POE 2 to be POE1 The sados who want POE2 to be a never ending slow slog and GGG who can't provide either If you want a slower game, then I would like that, but you can't then pair that with monsters that are fast. If you want bosses that are difficult then that's fine, but you can't add cheese mechanics, and yet they nearly all have them. If you want to balance the end game and do so by nerfing things in the campaign, then you aren't a good developer If you want players to craft in the campaign, you need to give them crafting resources. You forgot to introduce new players to mechanics in stages, right now by the end of act 1 you have given us monster explosions, monster death pools, league mechanics, multi tier stages with navigation and secrets, dynamic difficult bosses, massive speed and action differential between mobs vs player and not enough resources or drops to be able to upgrade efficiently. Its rather poor work, you throw too much at a new player and do not give them enough tools. The entire monster balance needs changing and the main culprits are on death effects and monster speed. You also need to give players bound rewards such as a few few gambling item rolls for doing a quest, a free item choice from the shop for another etc, right now you just don't always get the items you need and you lack the gold to do much about it. The GGG motto of the only way is up means that all these issues are amplified as you go through the game into end game, the overall balance and feel of the game is off. I said that starting point was too high because you would never be able to reduce things without whats going on now, but you've also reduced things in a really calamitous and out of touch way. Good luck listening to the right people because there are correct points on all sides, this is the problem you created with the expectations you publicly set and the expectations of those that think they can bully you into making POE 1.5 |
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" I honestly think this is just a transitionary patch, and in a few weeks, or a month or two, we'll get the real meat and potatoes of the game. Right now it's just very rough, unfinished, needing refinement. But yes. I think GGG set the expectation that this will supersede PoE 1 by naming it PoE 2. Biggest problem. Needs a new name, and honestly should've had a different forum for it. These things would've helped minimize the unwarranted 'but my zoom zoom dopamine' posts quite significantly, and allowed for more quality feedback. That was originally the intention too. It was supposed to be a huge upgrade to PoE 1, but it's clearly morphed into a new game, and PoE 1 players need to accept this. Not continue trying to bully people into making it PoE 1.5. I saw this in December, I still see it. I think it's just a waiting game. It's EA. Most people are acting like this is a full release. I think GGG is being entirely too optimistic with it's end of the year release date too. That is an incredible amount of work to do, and very little time. I feel the quality will suffer because of it. I think they just need to put their heads down, and work. And consider what a game will be like if they focus on just fun, enjoyment, and a good challenge. It's clear they're not quite there yet. |
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