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I enjoyed 0.1.0 for over 300 hours, took a month and a half break, came back for this, and God, it's so awful. They've turned act 1, which was honestly the campaign highlight at launch, into an incredibly dull, unfun slog. They can't even blame that on their usual interview crutch of "we had no way to test everything in a game of this scope" because literally so many problems with pacing and character power are incredibly obvious on any fresh character inside the first hour.
Whatever. Back to Hearts of Iron 4, see you in 3 months.
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Posted bytsurutafan#6091on Apr 4, 2025, 9:58:06 PM
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BANGER post! 🔥🔥🔥
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Posted byAulyx#1181on Apr 4, 2025, 10:02:06 PM
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I don't know what people want. They gave players exactly what they asked for: Remove all meta skills and lower all player damage and defenses so the game is more like the only good game ever made - Elden Ring. Now nobody wants to play.
When the meta is solved in 2 days and everyone starts sharing the "easy" builds players will come back and play again and call the game too easy and beg GGG for nerfs. It's so weird.
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Posted byDiabloImmoral#7632on Apr 4, 2025, 10:06:32 PM
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You can always spot the ones that don't actually play Soulslikes at all because they say crazy nonsense like the above, when literally every Fromsoft game has a crafting system that is so easy to exploit that even first time players figoure out how to make swords that chunk bosses for massive amounts. So many of you have no idea what you're talking about and it shows.
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Posted bytsurutafan#6091on Apr 4, 2025, 10:07:57 PM
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I don't know what people want. They gave players exactly what they asked for: Remove all meta skills and lower all player damage and defenses so the game is more like the only good game ever made - Elden Ring. Now nobody wants to play.
When the meta is solved in 2 days and everyone starts sharing the "easy" builds players will come back and play again and call the game too easy and beg GGG for nerfs. It's so weird.
The issue is. The combat needs to feel good. PoE 2 combat doesn't feel very good.
Good is subjective, but like.. usually it involves things like responsiveness, animations, strong powerful attacks, combo's, mobility. Most of which this game is lacking.
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Posted byAkedomo#3573on Apr 4, 2025, 10:08:09 PM
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I don't know what people want. They gave players exactly what they asked for: Remove all meta skills and lower all player damage and defenses so the game is more like the only good game ever made - Elden Ring. Now nobody wants to play.
When the meta is solved in 2 days and everyone starts sharing the "easy" builds players will come back and play again and call the game too easy and beg GGG for nerfs. It's so weird.
I for one never asked for that.
Neither did most except some ... tourists.
The reality is that none of the skills i did were viable with the current game. The movb density is too high, the life on the mobs too high, they hit too hard and I would doo more damage with a toothpick.
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Posted byKraythax#2592on Apr 4, 2025, 10:09:22 PM
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CINEMA
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Posted byXhibbi#3987on Apr 4, 2025, 10:12:16 PM
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So I will play huntress. Surely they tested these skills for viability and just didn't plan some random interactions on paper, throw it at the wall to see what would stick. Didn't they? ... Uh .... sigh.
I like melee in POE1. Huntress seemed cool. Stabby-stabby spear. ... but with no actual damage. Stabb-stabby gives you 5 to 9 damage and takes roughly 45 minutes to kill a single white mob. Meanwhile the white mob 3 shots you. No, wait, I will parry. I will stand stock still for several seconds waiting to parry so I can disengage. Worked for 2 mobs, DIDNT work for 6. Maybe kite them and parry? Nope, you cant kite in this game. So whirlwind? Ok ... spin, spin, spin, wait to parry, parry, disengage, whirlwind collapses. Ok .... lets try that generally. Oh wait there are now 25 mobs on you and your stance is broken, chain stunned and dead. We dropped another gem. Tornado? Ok lets do that ... oh ... the tornados are random as spark and weaker. ... got it. Maybe explosive spear? Nope. You first have to set that up as a parry then throw after you parry, disengage and get a frenzy charge. Without that it takes 35 minutes to go off and does the damage of one of those popper fireworkss you throw at the ground. The enemy isnt much more than annoyed.
Ok, lets whirlwind. Die like 4 times to beria ... ok devourer not bad ... ok rust king. Sigh 4 deaths. Mob density is too high and whirlwind kills really slow. Its not like things are dying in the ginsu tornado. It does nothing but debuff the enemy with blind until you leave it. Now we get to tier 2 gems. I know lets try fangs of frost. So you wait ... wait ... (they are closer) ok parry a zombie, disengage and get a frenzy charge. Ok then stab mob 2. He will freeze like video. NOPE. You have to parry THAT mob. Its not enough to have a frenzy charge, its not enough to parry. YOu have to stab the one that just hit you ... in a pack of 10. Ok lets try that. Parry stab and he blows ... oh wait he doesnt. he needs to be at maybe lower life?
Got the fangs of frost play line. Parry, stab ... wow is it slow for everyone? Oh yeah .. 85% of base spear speed so we go from 1.6 attacks per second tothe speed of a great mace with one 10th the damage. Ok lets parry, hit that mob, he freezes then his friends die in the ice explo...... oh ... no they didnt.
Now we trudged through. 12 deaths in we are in Grim tangle. Bad guy in door is a yellow ... with LOTS of friends and MOST of the floor is covered with poison degen puddles. Parry, FOF ... nope ... doesnt freeze ... ok .. try again ... third time? Ok got it that time. his friends around him are destroyed ... no actually only mildly annoyed by the ice. Meantime you are chugging heals like crazy becasue the degen puddles will kill you in 5 seconds if you stand in them.
Seven deaths later not through grim tangle. Frustrated. Roll a witch. Some minions ... oh this is easy again.
GGG has messed it up again. The melee classes are in this game as a cruel sadistic tease. Run mionins, run spark, blow up the map. Thats the only viable build and skills in this game. That isnt a game. That is BS.
I think I will go play BG3. Losing an honor mode solo is less annoying than this. In 3 weeks the top builds in POE2 hunt will be the same as they were before. Why? Because the game is tuned for that. Again players will blow up the map and GGG will nerf the melee classes that arent doing that because their play is irritating the screen blasters. As for me ... Im gonna make dinner for my kids then relaz on a game ... of BG3. Didnt even make it one day in this patch.
Incredibly accurate, and almost a carbon copy of my experience today.
Im going to play PoE1, GOAT ARPG that will never get old.
Thanks for an amazing post Kraythax, on the upside, Last Epoch is close....
In the end, War isn't about who was right, its about who is left...
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Posted byKiaKahaNZ#2341on Apr 4, 2025, 10:12:33 PM
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Incredibly accurate, and almost a carbon copy of my experience today.
Im going to play PoE1, GOAT ARPG that will never get old.
Thanks for an amazing post Kraythax, on the upside, Last Epoch is close....
I wish you could react to posts here and like them. I like this.
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Posted byKraythax#2592on Apr 4, 2025, 10:15:01 PM
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Fuck this pain.
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Posted byeedve#6148on Apr 4, 2025, 10:15:06 PM
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