12 years, flushed away.

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Doom-saying ! Who wants a bucket of Doom ? It's cheap and not so fresh ! Doom-saying ! Come get some !
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I'm pretty sure during Q&A stream they stated that their intent to make PoE2 different from PoE1, so much that there will be minimal audience overlap. I.e. zoom-zoom in PoE1 and dark souls lite in PoE2. But it will take time, because even endgame in PoE2 is just placeholder copy from PoE1.


they said A LOT of things that turned out to be wrong, question is wether they were lying intentionally for marketing or if the development plans just changed 100 times over time
guy he needed to vent let him chill lol

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so? they will just keep delaying it. they bought themselves a couple of months now with the announcement, then when the time is up there will be another announcement similar to today's one and the loop will keep going
How do you know? Do you work for GGG? Or is this another case of "Source: Trust me bro?"

Interesting.


They are an avid poster here, As are you lol.

I would imagine you both have a wealth of knowledge to come to some predictions as to what will be happening in the future regarding this matter.

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You all need to understand one important thing: they will hear the sound of coins and whether or not you play their games.

If you understand that, you already know how to act, so they will listen to us.


Why is it that people who don't have a single supporter pack always talk the loudest about money and withdrawing support?
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
And tbf I think its petty unreasonable to predict they will push it off further because the pattern with GGG is very much not about pushing leagues back.

I do think they are making a mistake not putting 7 guys on a POE1 league right away. Like its bad for everyone including them.
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
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poe players are way to spoiled with devs actually listening. But this is a classic thing of people biting the hand of those that feed them. Its just never enough. Appriciate what youre getting instead of asking for more when you already got a lot.
Yeah, I've said this more than once, GGG talks and makes open often unguarded statements, and often allows themselves to be put on the spot "I don't know that I'll check with that team" real transparent communication I want to say about 10 or 15 or even 20x more often and more broadly than literally any other game dev who's game I've been a fan of.

Blizzards fireside chats seem to have been direct responses to this. Like its extremely uncharacteristic of Blizzard to have Dev's talking about their games. So even with D4 being a steaming pile and the chats being 90% fluffing the MTX shop or pandering. I have to give them credit for communicating.

But the thing is they don't actually say much, they mostly pander to their casual base, put out PR and salesdroid talking points like that time Joe Shelly was uncomfortably forced to try and coin a new term "Systems Action Role Playing Game" and had to repeat SARPG and "Systems ARPG" like a couple dozen times, while visibly squirming in his chair because quite clearly his boss told him he wanted a new cooler name for what kind of game D4 is. Then a year later Rod tries to make Diablo-Like a thing... lol... How about D&D-like if we're being honest.

GGG on the other hand almost exhaustively discusses why they do things, they have probably a hundred 2 hour long interviews just on POE2 in the last two years. No else one does this that I follow.

And yet they get more hand wringing and accusations of not talking enough than games that barely say anything.

Its actually just a case of loud edge cases. A few complete loons who start sounding like a lot of people due to how human selection bias works.
The same mechanic as the Satanic Panic and other such selection bias fueled lunacy.
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.

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