Armour fix by increasing 15%?!

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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:

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BedlessSleeper#0856 wrote:

I'm not saying ur experience is wrong, but I have basically the same experience on my Earthquake Titan with 0 armour and just Cloak of Flame + 86% fire res. That's why people say Armor is bad, because it really doesn't make a difference vs. other forms of mitigation and it's straight up worse compared to evasion or ES against Bosses. I'd argue that ur shield is what actually keeps u alive most of the time, same as for me. I have 75% block with life regen on block and that helps a ton vs. small hits (basically what armor is supposed to help with). Bigger hits get mitigated by Cloak of Flame the same way they would with armour for the most part.

Also Scavanged plating is just a bad buff and hopefully they rework that skill completely. For me as an Earthquake build I can't make use of it at all and I tried. But right now the duration of the Buff is 2.24 seconds with Persistence support for my build. It needs to be not duration based or at least get rid of the duration tag and make it last longer as a base.

I agree with u tho, a bigger HP pool is definitely needed for Warrior.

For me scavenging plating is BIS since I can get 10 stacks in a single hit with my build. I guess its more build dependent than they intended since they are buffing it, as right now my build lets me use Mace Strike that Heavystuns on a single hit + Heavy stun cause Armour Breaks due to Shattering Blow node [INSANELY BROKEN NODE] + Impact Shockwave support gem duplicates attack to nearby enemies + Armour explosion support gem. Gets max stacks instantly.

Literally I just walk to a mob, left click, and they blow up and AOE chain half the screen and instantly kills everything. Try out Shattering Blow node if you are heavystunning a lot, it sounds weak since it says 50% armour break, but its actually 50% of your physical damage breaks their armour, so you basically get guarenteed armour break on literally everything except bosses with no support gems that deal armour or support it.

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BedlessSleeper#0856 wrote:

yes I know its not 90% PDR... Thats literally why I said 21000armour.

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Asghaad#3967 wrote:

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BedlessSleeper#0856 wrote:

yes I know its not 90% PDR... Thats literally why I said 21000armour.

ok to be more specific the armor formula in PoE2 is currently Armor/(Armor+ 12 X Damage)

meaning if you have your 21k armor and tanking 10k hit you have whopping 14.1% damage reduction ...

no you arent tanking with armor, just with BLOCK ... which is why you HAVE to have that shield and would get instantly melted without it

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BedlessSleeper#0856 wrote:

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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:

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BedlessSleeper#0856 wrote:

I'm not saying ur experience is wrong, but I have basically the same experience on my Earthquake Titan with 0 armour and just Cloak of Flame + 86% fire res. That's why people say Armor is bad, because it really doesn't make a difference vs. other forms of mitigation and it's straight up worse compared to evasion or ES against Bosses. I'd argue that ur shield is what actually keeps u alive most of the time, same as for me. I have 75% block with life regen on block and that helps a ton vs. small hits (basically what armor is supposed to help with). Bigger hits get mitigated by Cloak of Flame the same way they would with armour for the most part.

Also Scavanged plating is just a bad buff and hopefully they rework that skill completely. For me as an Earthquake build I can't make use of it at all and I tried. But right now the duration of the Buff is 2.24 seconds with Persistence support for my build. It needs to be not duration based or at least get rid of the duration tag and make it last longer as a base.

I agree with u tho, a bigger HP pool is definitely needed for Warrior.

For me scavenging plating is BIS since I can get 10 stacks in a single hit with my build. I guess its more build dependent than they intended since they are buffing it, as right now my build lets me use Mace Strike that Heavystuns on a single hit + Heavy stun cause Armour Breaks due to Shattering Blow node [INSANELY BROKEN NODE] + Impact Shockwave support gem duplicates attack to nearby enemies + Armour explosion support gem. Gets max stacks instantly.

Literally I just walk to a mob, left click, and they blow up and AOE chain half the screen and instantly kills everything. Try out Shattering Blow node if you are heavystunning a lot, it sounds weak since it says 50% armour break, but its actually 50% of your physical damage breaks their armour, so you basically get guarenteed armour break on literally everything except bosses with no support gems that deal armour or support it.

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BedlessSleeper#0856 wrote:

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Asghaad#3967 wrote:

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BedlessSleeper#0856 wrote:

yes I know its not 90% PDR... Thats literally why I said 21000armour.

ok to be more specific the armor formula in PoE2 is currently Armor/(Armor+ 12 X Damage)

meaning if you have your 21k armor and tanking 10k hit you have whopping 14.1% damage reduction ...

no you arent tanking with armor, just with BLOCK ... which is why you HAVE to have that shield and would get instantly melted without it

Yea? Isn't that what I said?

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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:

That's not the issue, I can get 10 stacks instantly aswell, but it only lasts for 2.24 seconds. It's gone when I walk from 1 pack to the next. Not even talking about bosses here.

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Asghaad#3967 wrote:

no it isnt, you are in a DELUSION that its the armor that is saving you when in reality it barely does anything and all that is keeping you alive is the BLOCK ...

you could literally dump all armor and replace it with just ES without any bonuses and GAIN EHP ...

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BedlessSleeper#0856 wrote:

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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:

That's not the issue, I can get 10 stacks instantly aswell, but it only lasts for 2.24 seconds. It's gone when I walk from 1 pack to the next. Not even talking about bosses here.

Wait why is it only lasting you 2seconds? Each stack should last for 8seconds, if you aren't already using it you can also apply Persistence to make it like ~12seconds. [They should 100% make each stack refresh the cooldown though, I thought that was going to be the buff].

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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:

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BedlessSleeper#0856 wrote:

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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:

That's not the issue, I can get 10 stacks instantly aswell, but it only lasts for 2.24 seconds. It's gone when I walk from 1 pack to the next. Not even talking about bosses here.

Wait why is it only lasting you 2seconds? Each stack should last for 8seconds, if you aren't already using it you can also apply Persistence to make it like ~12seconds. [They should 100% make each stack refresh the cooldown though, I thought that was going to be the buff].

Ok I see u're kinda new. No problem tho. Gotta head to work, otherwise I'd explain why. Good luck exile.