Really wish this was an MMO

Give the team a few years. They are laying the Wraeclast foundations now. What I believe is that PoE will be great success and help GGG to stabilize financially. As a result, this will allow further expansion including full-fledged MMORPG, the one you are dreaming about.

Look at the Runic - they are going similar path: Torchlight 1 (just like D1) -> Torchlight 2 (just like D2) -> Torchlight MMORPG (just like the Blizzard North's unfinished D3 from 2003).

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GimmeAKitKat wrote:

By PvP i mean true PvP, it has a bad name these days thanks to the MMO's around these days. By PvP, i want it to be possible for me to see soembody i dont like, and simply kill them, and maybe get a decent item from their death drop too.

Have you seriously been playing any MMOs at all? If you do, you would know that's called "PKing", not PvP.

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nzrock wrote:

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GimmeAKitKat wrote:

By PvP i mean true PvP, it has a bad name these days thanks to the MMO's around these days. By PvP, i want it to be possible for me to see soembody i dont like, and simply kill them, and maybe get a decent item from their death drop too.

Have you seriously been playing any MMOs at all? If you do, you would know that's called "PKing", not PvP.

semantics. PKing is only possible on PvP servers. I've never seen a "PKing" server in a game.

Sacred 2 felt like an mmo at times with it's 16 player limit,open world and respawning enemies.

I must admit I've always fancied a persistent open gameworld but with D2 style game mechanics.Some games have a town area that allows for lots of people in the same area but that is not the same thing,Twoworlds 2 has this but doesn't really give the mmo experience of an open persistent world same with Guild wars.

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Onionspam wrote:

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nzrock wrote:

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GimmeAKitKat wrote:

By PvP i mean true PvP, it has a bad name these days thanks to the MMO's around these days. By PvP, i want it to be possible for me to see soembody i dont like, and simply kill them, and maybe get a decent item from their death drop too.

Have you seriously been playing any MMOs at all? If you do, you would know that's called "PKing", not PvP.

semantics. PKing is only possible on PvP servers. I've never seen a "PKing" server in a game.

Many old MMOs(mostly asian ones that never got a english version), didn't have PK only servers, PK and non-PK were mixed.
All you had to do was hold down control key or something and PK the fuck out of people...
Of course granted this annoyed a lot of people, so as time passed, PK Only servers options were added.

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anubite wrote:

. . . There's a massive crowd of people who just hop onto the latest MMO and then drop it a month later. . .
Besides, MOST people who MMO hunt are just looking for a fix to replace WOW. They won't find it, because you cannot directly compete with WOW and hope to survive.

It's funny you say this because I've never played WoW, but you are pretty close to the truth. One of the primary motivators in the MMO Hunt is to find a game that compares to the memory of some classic game you've once enjoyed.

For me, that is Diablo and Diablo 2. Even then, I only started playing those because my local arcade sold their Gauntlet series ;P Likewise, I've played more traditional MMORPGs looking for something I could get into as much as I did EQ a long time ago.. but not even EQ itself fulfilled this.

I guess I've realized that it's no longer fun grinding solely in order to watch a number grow larger, such that you can defeat enemies with larger stats in a similar number of hits as you could previously with lower stats and weaker enemies; the exception being games that retain that classic hack and slash feel that I fell in love with playing Gauntlet in my youth. I think I've finally found that with PoE, from everything I've seen and heard so far :D

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nzrock wrote:

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GimmeAKitKat wrote:

By PvP i mean true PvP, it has a bad name these days thanks to the MMO's around these days. By PvP, i want it to be possible for me to see soembody i dont like, and simply kill them, and maybe get a decent item from their death drop too.

Have you seriously been playing any MMOs at all? If you do, you would know that's called "PKing", not PvP.

This.

Op is a WoW baby. Apparently chat channels, trading, and PvP= MMO.

Last time I checkeed MMO meant Massivley Multiplayer Online.



So yes, it is an MMO you illetrate fuck.

Keep it civil, there's no need for ironic flaming.

There's a dev diary on the whole PoE is an MMO crap:
http://www.pathofexile.com/news/2010-11-29/dev-diary4

I don't think PoE is an MMO just because it has online RPG/social elements added to it. But I could be biased since I have a sour disposition to games that openly identify as MMOs because the gameplay is always watered down and exhaustingly boring to me.

if this was an MMORPG, i would not be taking part within, luckily it is not.