1 death on maps is hurting casual players and adds nothing to hardcore players

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dwqrf#0717 wrote:


So... Uh... Because D4 and PoE are both arpg, they catter to the exact same playerbase ?

Lol what. Bruh, please.

PoE2 is an oldschool's style hard & punitive arpg. It isn't for casuals, even if it has been made to be more accessible (easier go understand : more in-game tooltips & infos). It hasn't been designed to be technically easier or for casuals, unlike D4, for example.

PoE2 IS niche.


where did i compare it to d4? i dont even play d4. why it made more accessible? have u thought about that? coz they want more players. they want new players.


Wanting new players doesn't mean wanting casuals players.
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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:


Devs decide. And the decided than one portal per map stays. At least for now.


yes. unless ppl want it and that what this forum is about mate. ppl says they want it. they said its last option but its still an option. saying its last option doesnt mean ppl wont tell devs they want it changed.
Imagine if they made it like D2 where your body drops your loot and you gotta run back and get it naked.
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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where did i compare it to d4? i dont even play d4. why it made more accessible? have u thought about that? coz they want more players. they want new players.


Wanting new players doesn't mean wanting casuals players.



how do u know that? they definitely want casual players, they want all players they can get coz its business not charity.
Last edited by Nightcorel#0497 on Jan 15, 2025, 6:13:43 PM
The gist of it is thus:

HARDCORE exists as a mode. We can pick that if we want 1 death to "mean something"

Softcore exists as a mode. The XP penalty discourages players from walking around with 'lol zero defenses', and in combination with the 6 portal limit, 'oh fuck that happened' means a mistake or a lack of attention can punish us without being completely awful

REMOVING the 6 portal limit turns EVERY MAP into a hardcore experience. And it truly IS NOT FUN for a lot of reasons.



Let hardcore be hardcore. But theres no reason to make softcore even more punishing than poe1.
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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:


Devs decide. And the decided than one portal per map stays. At least for now.


yes. unless ppl want it and that what this forum is about mate. ppl says they want it. they said its last option but its still an option. saying its last option doesnt mean ppl wont tell devs they want it changed.


This forum is about providing feedback but some players somehow start to think they are authorized to make demands. There is more threads filled with rants than any feedback.
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Thror2k5#7154 wrote:
The gist of it is thus:

HARDCORE exists as a mode. We can pick that if we want 1 death to "mean something"

Softcore exists as a mode. The XP penalty discourages players from walking around with 'lol zero defenses', and in combination with the 6 portal limit, 'oh fuck that happened' means a mistake or a lack of attention can punish us without being completely awful

REMOVING the 6 portal limit turns EVERY MAP into a hardcore experience. And it truly IS NOT FUN for a lot of reasons.



Let hardcore be hardcore. But theres no reason to make softcore even more punishing than poe1.


You cannot possibly compare losing a waystone and 10% XP to losing a whole character.

It's not possible.
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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where did i compare it to d4? i dont even play d4. why it made more accessible? have u thought about that? coz they want more players. they want new players.


Wanting new players doesn't mean wanting casuals players.



how do u know that? they definitely want casual players, they want all players they can get coz its business not charity.


I know it because they didn't design PoE2 like D4 and won't follow the same path.
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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Thror2k5#7154 wrote:
The gist of it is thus:

HARDCORE exists as a mode. We can pick that if we want 1 death to "mean something"

Softcore exists as a mode. The XP penalty discourages players from walking around with 'lol zero defenses', and in combination with the 6 portal limit, 'oh fuck that happened' means a mistake or a lack of attention can punish us without being completely awful

REMOVING the 6 portal limit turns EVERY MAP into a hardcore experience. And it truly IS NOT FUN for a lot of reasons.



Let hardcore be hardcore. But theres no reason to make softcore even more punishing than poe1.


You cannot possibly compare losing a waystone and 10% XP to losing a whole character.

It's not possible.


i can and its not losing the character. its goes to softcore which is not the same thing as its deleted.
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dwqrf#0717 wrote:
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how do u know that? they definitely want casual players, they want all players they can get coz its business not charity.


I know it because they didn't design PoE2 like D4 and won't follow the same path.


where does it say i want it to follow d4? point at it pls. i dont even like d4.

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