This thing is gona flop

One initial thought that may defend the other (the 2 reps from GGG of the interview) side perhaps...their remarks were quite intentional (despite the lack of empathy), and it was in doing so for the best for the future, i.e. prepare those that think there will be change and that it will be diff from PoE1 (end-game/mapping) but he already knows it's a lost cause (currently leaning towards they are in-the-know re. general community sentiments [and perhaps there really is nothing they can/will do]). However, playing devil's advocate, given the past history of PoE1 and what many others have said for their track record - this also isn't anything new in a way...so perhaps this is again no different, and history repeats itself once again (in due time).

To re-iterate (TLDR): post-interview, (personally) my current (until more data arrives from the community/YT/forums/Reddit/etc) bet will side on past history, i.e. "melee < ranged" and "zoom zoom 1-shot" -- so, no real changes from PoE1, essentially (with the main outlier of the campaign for the 1st ~60 lvls or so...lol --- and new melee classes like Druid/Templar/Marauder...lol [bye Warrior...lol {I don't count Monk...lol -- nor minion/Witch...lol}]) -- and timing-wise, I'll just say 2026+ (so, guessing 1 more year of gamedev until full Release post-this EA).

(Post this interview w/ the 2 GGG reps, I just decided to bite the bullet and re-rolled Monk [finally?] for SSF [felt the additional handicap of SSF would help Balance it out...lol. {Merc lvl ~64, Witch lvl 21, Warrior lvl 66 -- considering trying out the Quarterstaff for my Merc -- Re-spec Again...lol -- and yes, will still be on the lookout for future Druid/Templar/Marauder...lol}])

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intersept#1235 wrote:

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argoniashawks#7828 wrote:

Great game!!

So great you dont even want to play it.
To keep the greatness intact.

Right now, I think it's worth 50 hours. Maybe after the content patch (not the one about to drop, the next one), it'll be worth 100 hours. My guess is it will have 200 hours of non-boring content by March, and 500 hours of non-boring content by the end of summer.

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Warrax#2850 wrote:

So many emotionally charged comments all the time, it's crazy and yeah it ressemble WoW forums a lot. The more I see these people having twisted views on things, the less credibility I feel they have and the less I care about them because they simply don't link this game in the end, their feedback is nothing but being angry and lashing out on the game, even on the smallest issue.

I hope your account gets locked so that you have to deal with support, then you'll be the one with meaningless feedback and being angry lol.

A lot of you have the attitude of "I don't have said problem, so it doesn't exist", its like telling homeless people, "Just buy a house" lol

If this game was free I wouldn't be complaining. But everyone here had paid for in my eyes is a closed beta. It feels like I had to pay to be there Guinea pig. They should be paying us for testing there game as this point.

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Warrax#2850 wrote:

So many emotionally charged comments all the time, it's crazy and yeah it ressemble WoW forums a lot.

This emotional charge is created by people's addiction to the game. Even tho they hate parts of it, they are addicted and can't let go. I know, because I was in the same spot years ago with Poe 1 - to the point I had to take a three years pause from it.

A person who is not addicted will take the game for what it is; early access with bugs and imbalance. Take the good things (eg. the campaign) and leave the rest until it's improved.

- Ascendancy trials are frustrating? Yes. That's why I grossly over-level before doing them.
- Endgame is boring? Yes. Just reroll new chars or test new builds.
- Game has bugs? Whatever. Come back in a few weeks or months.
- The 'muh economy' if fkd? When this wasn't the case in the whole history of PoE, lol?
- Melee / Warrior sucks? Again, when this wasn't the case?


You can't consciously pay into an early access game and then rage all the time. It's not healthy. -_-

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Neurodrive#5820 wrote:

Ahaha so million copies with 220k day and -16% in only 3 weeks is not a flop? Ok

thats not actually the numbers tho so i wouldnt worry about it m8.


the 24 hour peak is at 240k right now.

thats 240k playing on steam. in poe1 the amount of players using steam vs the standalone client is about 60% to 40% or something like this. none of my friends are playing poe2 via steam because we didnt trust steam to be as quick with the patching and get things right on day 1, were all on stand alone client. plus you have people on consoles. that number is probably half of the 24h peak.


so if the actual number is more like 400k+, that is 400k+ people playing at the same time. do you think everyone who is currently playing poe2 all played yesterday and at exactly the same time?


in poe1 chris confirmed that leagues with a 200-250k player peak actually had several million people play the league. they just dont all log on at the same time on the same days.


400k+ people all playing the game at the same time on a tuesday, that indicates a shitload of people who are still playing this game, most of whom will play a couple of days a week in the evening of their local time zone.





dont worry about it, the numbers are insanely good.

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morbo#1824 wrote:

You can't consciously pay into an early access game and then rage all the time. It's not healthy. -_-

yeah for real morbo.

we know, weve both been there getting a bit too passionate about the game cause we care and love poe. but really you got to take a step back and just detach a bit for your own sake.



the game is in development, we are testing a first attempt at 1/3 of the full game. they have so much to balance, and every time you balance one thing it effects the others.


people saying how come you havent nerfed lightning sorc or buffed armour/warrior... theyre rebalancing monsters in the next patch. how can you even begin to balance builds and work out how armour needs to work if you dont even know what the correct numbers for monster balance are?

you cant balance C until you balance B, and you cant balance B until you balance A, and they have 200 things that need deep dive balanced while simultaneously trying to develop the other 2/3 of the game. and they will get there. but they wont get there in 2 weeks so lets all just chill out, go find a build that works and is fun, play the game.


its fine.

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intersept#1235 wrote:

Its already on its way.
Im telling you its floping soo hard.
Every one is trying hard to not full on start raging at this slop of a game.

But the patience is growing thin by the day.
After the ''big patch'' that shoud have been implemented 2 weeks ago.

The ''regular players'' will realise : Wait !? its still the same slop. This was just basic bug and shitty mechanics fix.
The daimn core is garbage.

Soon not even the streamers, item sellers and market manipulators will be able to gaslight ''regular players'' into thinking this is good.

Just give it some time. Pure Garbage

you're gonna flop, ma boy

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AcnologiaDragneel#1059 wrote:

If this game was free I wouldn't be complaining. But everyone here had paid for in my eyes is a closed beta. It feels like I had to pay to be there Guinea pig. They should be paying us for testing there game as this point.

You fundamentally don't understand what Early access is at this point so i don't understand where you get so much air from, i'm assuming that blizzard early access has rotted your brain and you think it's "pay more money to play a few days early".

Early access is "we are still developing the product but it's in a playable state, we benefit from having people test it under development and are therefore selling access for those interested".

This is not a beta test, there is no finished product for you to get to try, there are no small adjustments to be made, the game literally isn't finished and if you can't handle that, why are you here to begin with.