we need a full wipe ASAP... exploits, hacks, etc will destroy economy from now on

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and who says for example the 20 exalt item is overpriced? you? if something is overpriced nobody is buyin it so it gets priced down.


Everyone says its overpriced, thats why the listing is sitting there for you to see.

The listings visible on the market are not the value of the item. They're the price nobody is willing to pay.
If the item was posted at value, it would have sold already, because so few people post at value.

I want to look up an item worth 5 exalt and see a flowing collection of listings at 5 exalt because everyone prices fairly.
Instead they only 2 people who price fairly already sold their copies and all that's left are overcharging listings from the greedy.
AGREED !
as a casual player, we cant buy anything anymore and falling of the curve.
Crafting is too much of a gamble and we all try to save what we can to buy gear, wich is wayyyy over price by the blaster and exploit.

Remove magic find, leave it on tablets only.
Or put it only in ssf.
Put a auction house like in wow and last epoch.

GGG were the first one to say you cant go below the standard of what is expected. Well that has already been done 10 years ago in a mmo and recently by another Arpg. No excuses
the point isnt the itens or stuff going core... nobody cares about the itens
the point is the balance
they are also using this early access to balance drop, dificulty and stuff

if they dont wipe, they will be balancing stuff over hacked/exploited stuff, and thats crazy

they must wipe just like a new league and rebalance considering that
the data right now is just not reliable

NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE ITENS ITSELF, WE KNOW THAT ITS EARLY ACCESS, THE PROBLEM IS THE BALANCING AROUND IT!
If you're so worried about the economy, play SSF, there's no trading, you decide your character's fate. The best mode on which the economy does not affect in any way. Or just don't pay attention to the trade. People are so much steamed on trade that they forgot about the main thing, it's a farming game, you have to collect everything yourself, you can ask your friends to give them something, they will give you an item. Be simpler, and do not use bugs, or GGG will catch up with you.
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FROZX#1482 wrote:
If you're so worried about the economy, play SSF, there's no trading, you decide your character's fate. The best mode on which the economy does not affect in any way. Or just don't pay attention to the trade. People are so much steamed on trade that they forgot about the main thing, it's a farming game, you have to collect everything yourself, you can ask your friends to give them something, they will give you an item. Be simpler, and do not use bugs, or GGG will catch up with you.


This is a very, very obviously bad argument.

The game is balanced around trade, and early access balance is affected by bugs that affect trade. Playing SSF is all well and good, but it is a fact that the state of the long-term health of the game is indirectly affected by the state of trade in early access, which is in turn heavily affected by bugs and exploits.

Not only is it a much worse experience for people who didn't use them or benefit from them, who now have zero purchasing power, making their own experience in the short term worse (and thus less likely to return), it is also worse for the game, by impacting the balance of the market and thus the decisions made by developers in that regard.

Opting out of trade doesn't affect trade balance long term at all; resetting does. This is early access, this is when such actions are expected and meant to be taken. When game breaking bugs that are likely to affect the capacity to balance the game exist and are used, damage inflicted by that bug must be removed, and when that necessitates a wipe, that is what should be happening.
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FROZX#1482 wrote:
If you're so worried about the economy, play SSF, there's no trading, you decide your character's fate. The best mode on which the economy does not affect in any way. Or just don't pay attention to the trade. People are so much steamed on trade that they forgot about the main thing, it's a farming game, you have to collect everything yourself, you can ask your friends to give them something, they will give you an item. Be simpler, and do not use bugs, or GGG will catch up with you.



the point is the economy lol
i didnt say i wasnt worried about the economy
i said i wasnt about wiping my itens and restarting

you guys dont get that they balance the drop rate and dificulty based on everything including the trade etc?
"just ignore the trade"

it doesnt work like that lol

i dont understand why you guys are so friked about wipe and restart... nothing will be kept anyway
early access point is to balance the game PROPERLY and right now its impossible cuz the data already got tainted... if they dont wipe, everything from now on will be UNRELIABLE

its not about ignoring trade if u play the trading server
its much more complex than that
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FROZX#1482 wrote:
If you're so worried about the economy, play SSF, there's no trading, you decide your character's fate. The best mode on which the economy does not affect in any way. Or just don't pay attention to the trade. People are so much steamed on trade that they forgot about the main thing, it's a farming game, you have to collect everything yourself, you can ask your friends to give them something, they will give you an item. Be simpler, and do not use bugs, or GGG will catch up with you.



the point is the economy lol
i didnt say i wasnt worried about the economy
i said i wasnt about wiping my itens and restarting

you guys dont get that they balance the drop rate and dificulty based on everything including the trade etc?
"just ignore the trade"

it doesnt work like that lol

i dont understand why you guys are so friked about wipe and restart... nothing will be kept anyway
early access point is to balance the game PROPERLY and right now its impossible cuz the data already got tainted... if they dont wipe, everything from now on will be UNRELIABLE

its not about ignoring trade if u play the trading server
its much more complex than that


The game just came out about a month ago, and GGG went on vacation in the new year, and your complaints are like they've been doing nothing for a year and the game is stupidly broken forever lol.
Keep it simple, yes it's Early Access, they haven't even added full content yet, no acts, no classes, no asendancy. There's still a lot of time before release, GGG will have time to fix and break the game again, and players still won't stop finding exploits and breaking it. That was the case with PoE1 (and still is) and will be the case with PoE2.
Patience and blessings to all.
GGG already knew things would and continously will be messed up in EA. That's why it will be cut off from standard as the game is released. What happens in EA, stays in EA.
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FROZX#1482 wrote:
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FROZX#1482 wrote:
If you're so worried about the economy, play SSF, there's no trading, you decide your character's fate. The best mode on which the economy does not affect in any way. Or just don't pay attention to the trade. People are so much steamed on trade that they forgot about the main thing, it's a farming game, you have to collect everything yourself, you can ask your friends to give them something, they will give you an item. Be simpler, and do not use bugs, or GGG will catch up with you.



the point is the economy lol
i didnt say i wasnt worried about the economy
i said i wasnt about wiping my itens and restarting

you guys dont get that they balance the drop rate and dificulty based on everything including the trade etc?
"just ignore the trade"

it doesnt work like that lol

i dont understand why you guys are so friked about wipe and restart... nothing will be kept anyway
early access point is to balance the game PROPERLY and right now its impossible cuz the data already got tainted... if they dont wipe, everything from now on will be UNRELIABLE

its not about ignoring trade if u play the trading server
its much more complex than that


The game just came out about a month ago, and GGG went on vacation in the new year, and your complaints are like they've been doing nothing for a year and the game is stupidly broken forever lol.
Keep it simple, yes it's Early Access, they haven't even added full content yet, no acts, no classes, no asendancy. There's still a lot of time before release, GGG will have time to fix and break the game again, and players still won't stop finding exploits and breaking it. That was the case with PoE1 (and still is) and will be the case with PoE2.
Patience and blessings to all.






it doesnt matter if its been 1 month, 1 week or 1 year
we are in a early access
if something big happens they should wipe and restart, period
early access is about balancing, development, etc
as soon as they fix the problem, they should wipe and restart
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it doesnt matter if its been 1 month, 1 week or 1 year
we are in a early access
if something big happens they should wipe and restart, period
early access is about balancing, development, etc
as soon as they fix the problem, they should wipe and restart



yes, lets wipe everybody's progress every week because some people duped items that will get removed from the game anyway. thats the dumbest thing ive read today
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