Finding A Solution Regarding The Support Gem Limit

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Bohnensuppe#6778 wrote:

How about removing the limit, but introducing a mechanic that limits the effectiveness of support gems to 90% if two of the same are used, or to 80% if 3 of the same are used, etc.

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Sickness#1007 wrote:

I rather keep the limit than do some convoluted "compromise".

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Cmagik#1657 wrote:

The logic is that they struggled to come up with different support gems because when anything can be socketed any amount of time, you end up like in PoE1 where 90% of skills use the same 10 support because that's the best thing to do. You got 100 support but only 10 are used 90% of the time, the remaining 10% are just for the little variation in skill innerworking.

For instance,
"Increased fire damage". why wouldn't you put this on all your fire spell?

If all fire skill end up with "Increased fire damage" as support, you might as well remove it and make it baseline. Repeat that for most damaging support (which were always the 3-4 first socket used in PoE1 for almost every single skill) and you end up with much less supports.

Then the same problem arises with utility support. If you don't need to invest that 3-4 socket into damaging support, then you can use utility. And again, most frost skill will use the same support, most fire too etc etc.

You end up where realistically you should include everything and only allow for 1-2 support with "weird unique effect". But that's not what they want.

So, in an interview, they explain that someone came up with this idea. "If the issue is that we socket the same things everywhere, why not add a limit of 1 support per build".

Then out of the sudden, +30% fire damage makes sens because it can only be used on a single skill. Same for some support.

Things like
+40% AoE
or
+50% AoE but induce a CD

also make sens because without the limitation, most of the time +40% AoE is better. But if there's a limitation then you can have "less good" support or more situational support.

The decision was made as to avoid PoE1 situation where your true "support choice" are 1 gem at best per 6L. You got no choice, you just pick whatever grants the most dmg.

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

Half the fun of PoE 1 was how absurd you could make a few of your skills.

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TheSlayer#7040 wrote:

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

Half the fun of PoE 1 was how absurd you could make a few of your skills.

This.

Having the freedom to make any gem combinations without restrictions.

Some people has also suggested different tiers of support gems (in PoE 2) which could allow the re-use but at an effectiviness cost. In my opinion any solution at this point would make PoE 2 a better game in this regard (I'm one of several players who stopped playing PoE 2 due to this limitation).