We Want / Need 6 Portals !!

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

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LennyGhoul#7115 wrote:

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hboi#6131 wrote:

Have you considered just not dying? Seems like a lot of people are using this trick to get around the skill issue you seem to be having.

Have you considered not being a condescending prick?

He has a point though. I mean.. why should you be allowed to continue after dying?

Why should they not?

There is, I think, already a xp loss. Isnt that penalty enough?

You could also reset map. "Damage" the map and reduce loot with each death.


Why must it be that "its now gone".


All I see is insults, concerns pushed aside. No actual arguments.

My arguments here are that this allows no learning process and that there already exists penalties and also there are many potential penalty options that could be used instead that make more sense.

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Galelieas#3816 wrote:

+1 this shit is already so fucking old and the game hasn't even been released lol

The people saying "oh it makes it so you have to play carefully etc." are the same delusional people that'll play for 1 league and never touch the game again; or even see maps...

Well.. I disagree with your point and I played poe1 for over 12k hours. So.. no..

Also did you qoute wrong?

+1 give me 6 portals. Boss map dying is probably the single worst thing in this game.

+1

I mean... They can reduce it to one portal when they get the balance right. Monster balance, skill balance, class balance, gear balance and especially waystone drop balance. Boosting up maps through several towers just to lose your one high level waystone to a BS overtuned mechanic feels like crap.

We already separate between HC and SC. Why we need to drag more and more of these mechanics into SC, is IMO unnecessary.

And the death feels even more crappy as the maps aren't even that fun (too big with bad layouts). "You mean to say I've dragged my ass through this freakin' mace just to die to some BS, overtune, imbalanced mechanic? That's cute"

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

Why should you have 6 tries at a boss though? If you die.. you die..

Because the windup/farming time for certain bossfights can be several hours, if not days AND we are playing softcore. Do you want the "if you die, you die" logic in the acts too?

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Jmundi#7573 wrote:

+1 give me 6 portals. Boss map dying is probably the single worst thing in this game.

Why should you have 6 tries at a boss though? If you die.. you die..

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

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Jmundi#7573 wrote:

+1 give me 6 portals. Boss map dying is probably the single worst thing in this game.

Why should you have 6 tries at a boss though? If you die.. you die..

Because this is Softcore, not Hardcore. That's why. Hardcore mechanics shouldn't be forced onto Softcore players. That's just bad game design. It's actually crazy this ever made it out of internal alpha testing and released as-is in Early Access.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

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Jmundi#7573 wrote:

+1 give me 6 portals. Boss map dying is probably the single worst thing in this game.

Why should you have 6 tries at a boss though? If you die.. you die..

Because this is Softcore, not Hardcore. That's why. Hardcore mechanics shouldn't be forced onto Softcore players. That's just bad game design. It's actually crazy this ever made it out of internal alpha testing and released as-is in Early Access.

There is quite the difference on losing a single map versus losing an entire character. I mean, would you prefer everything died in a single click? No of cause not. It is about imposing a feeling of punishment if you fail. Without that feeling. Do you really think you would still play the game?

+1

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

There is quite the difference on losing a single map versus losing an entire character. I mean, would you prefer everything died in a single click? No of cause not. It is about imposing a feeling of punishment if you fail. Without that feeling. Do you really think you would still play the game?

Yes, I would because my time would be respected.

Why is this still an argument? Just make it opt in and give players on both sides of the argument the choice on how to play.

Atlas tree is supposed to be the mechanism for solving this issue. Let us reduce the number of active portals per map in exchange for some kind of benefit and both sides win.

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

There is quite the difference on losing a single map versus losing an entire character. I mean, would you prefer everything died in a single click? No of cause not. It is about imposing a feeling of punishment if you fail. Without that feeling. Do you really think you would still play the game?

Yes, because I've played PoE 1 for over 6000 hours in SC Trade. I don't need some fake feeling of "tension" or "punishment" to enjoy a videogame. I despise the very idea of losing ANY progress from dying in a game. Even just the 10% exp penalty makes me want to quit the game in PoE 1. And oneshotting things and getting overpowered is exactly what makes games fun for a lot of people. Turns out everyone enjoys games in a different way. Don't take my word for it though, the steam numbers will say it all in a few months if GGG sticks to The Vision TM. It's inevitable that the game will die if they don't make massive changes.

Forcing hardcore mechanics onto people that actively chose to play Softcore is the most insane design choice I've ever seen in a game in my life. It will drive away so many players if it isn't changed asap.